Drover wrote:shakes wrote:So I guess the real problem here is a misunderstanding on your part. Advocating for something to fail and predicting something will fail are two different things. I suggest you read up on the differences and maybe you won't have such a hard time interpreting posts on the forum.
There's no way to interpret a command that a place shut down as merely a prediction. You're responsible for your own formulation. If you don't want to be misinterpreted then don't state a "prediction" in the form of a command.
ronnie_suburban wrote:We locked the thread for reasons that are probably obvious to everyone.
Thanks - have a great weekend!
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at the Reader's website, Mike Sula wrote:This is no carbon copy of Gene & Georgetti. They're always happy to see you at Mirabella. The first time I visited the chef dropped whatever business he had with the bartender and rushed over to open the door for me. Napkins are refolded when chairs are vacated. Servers in black vests with name tags leap at your every whim.
[Arturo]Aucaquizhpi credits Mario Navarro, his predecessor at Gene & Georgetti, with teaching him everything he knows. A quick look at his menu reveals it's been a faithful study. Nearly everything you could possibly order at G&G is on the menu at Mirabella, at significantly lower prices. Boost your lipids with the bacon with blue cheese dip or its ostensibly healthier alternative, a wedge salad tottering under a blue cheese avalanche, itself carpeted with crushed bacon. The signature Mirabella salad is a dead ringer for G&G's garbage salad: a pile of antipasto, iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, radishes, and olives. Fried ravioli, pizza bread, baked clams, sausage and peppers—it's all there, with no concession given to the culinary currents of the day.
ronnie_suburban wrote:Mirabella is open and Sula seemed to really like it . . .
riddlemay wrote:lodasi wrote:—Mirabella Italian Restaurant’s opening has been delayed. ... The restaurant, from the executive chef at Gene & Georgetti, was to open inside the Mirabell space. That’s the beloved German restaurant that closed after 38 years.
And now I'll jump in, only to add that the "beloved German restaurant" wasn't beloved by me. They treated us and our friend abominably on a visit in the eighties or early nineties. Speaking for myself, because of this experience, the new occupant of the space couldn't make a worse decision than to pay "homage" to that place in the name of his restaurant.
bweiny wrote:riddlemay wrote:lodasi wrote:—Mirabella Italian Restaurant’s opening has been delayed. ... The restaurant, from the executive chef at Gene & Georgetti, was to open inside the Mirabell space. That’s the beloved German restaurant that closed after 38 years.
And now I'll jump in, only to add that the "beloved German restaurant" wasn't beloved by me. They treated us and our friend abominably on a visit in the eighties or early nineties. Speaking for myself, because of this experience, the new occupant of the space couldn't make a worse decision than to pay "homage" to that place in the name of his restaurant.
"Why the hell didn't you tell me about the party of two you alienated 28 years ago?! That changes everything!"
Given the benefit of 3-4 months of hindsight, I think the cheesy name-tweak has worked out. The intermediary failure is beyond memory & the enterprise's story has better momentum than if it were just Italian Cliche X. The name evokes curiosity at a minimum. Even the cynicism behind a quarter century grudge might want to try the food knowing that their money won't be going to the same people.
riddlemay wrote:bweiny wrote:riddlemay wrote:And now I'll jump in, only to add that the "beloved German restaurant" wasn't beloved by me. They treated us and our friend abominably on a visit in the eighties or early nineties. Speaking for myself, because of this experience, the new occupant of the space couldn't make a worse decision than to pay "homage" to that place in the name of his restaurant.
"Why the hell didn't you tell me about the party of two you alienated 28 years ago?! That changes everything!"
In giving my own personal response to the name, I was suggesting that we might not have been the only customers turned off by Mirabell, and that, if I was correct about that, the new name was a marketing mistake.
I don't like it when a restaurant posts its menu online without prices.
Katie wrote:I love prime rib, and that looks like a very good one. Do you remember what it cost?
That's good to know; thanks.G Wiv wrote:$35.75 and the prime rib was excellent. Perfectly cooked with choice of soup or salad and mashed or cottage fries.
That's also good to know. The online menu doesn't say that either.G Wiv wrote:Only offered Saturday night.
George R wrote:When a restaurant fails to list prices, there's a suspicion it will be more expensive than you expect.
ronnie_suburban wrote:My comment about it not being deceptive was in response to this comment . . .George R wrote:When a restaurant fails to list prices, there's a suspicion it will be more expensive than you expect.
I couldn't disagree more with this statement. As I posted above, there are reasonable and practical reasons why a restaurant may not list pricing on their online menus. In such cases, if you're a price buyer, you can always call first.
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bweiny wrote:While I doubt it to be as premeditated and purposeful as I will describe below, I think the lack of online menu prices is charming.
It clearly doesn't maximize the website's utility, but it is consistent with every other articulable aspect/feature of Mirabella that I have heard. The much LTH-derided name gave nothing away. Without overtly stating so, every business decision can be viewed as anti-modern. They include a soup or salad with entrees for crying out loud.
If you follow along with the opinions of Sula and those who have been there on this thread, they are a throwback with good value. It is absolutely not guaranteed to engender charm unanimously, but they have made a consistent business decision. If you don't post prices, and play the experience close to the vest, then you allow for an element of surprise value that would be unavailable with prior notice of prices. I tip my hat to Mirabella for disregarding everything foodies think they are entitled to.
Lenny007 wrote:By the way, how was the soup?
Katie wrote:I love prime rib, and that looks like a very good one. Do you remember what it cost?
I don't like it when a restaurant posts its menu online without prices.
ronnie_suburban wrote:and the peas were taut.