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I've been checking each day this week to see if he put the Foie dogs on the menu before he left for vacation.
I don't think he had them on in at least a couple of weeks.
So unless the fuzz got real lucky, that means some rat (who's ironically into goose-stepping) was probaby checking his site, just waiting for the opportunity to report him.

Hmmm.... I wonder what rat liver tastes like?


Well, we're off to Doug's to show our support (oh, and to eat amazing sausages).


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griffin wrote:
goose-stepping

I'm glad to see this thread has managed to avoid offensive hyperbole.


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cilantro wrote:
griffin wrote:
goose-stepping

I'm glad to see this thread has managed to avoid offensive hyperbole.


actually, I find that particular bit of "offensive hyperbole" highly-amusing

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cilantro wrote:
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goose-stepping

I'm glad to see this thread has managed to avoid offensive hyperbole.



What I find offensive is the use of dishonest propaganda and emotional manipulation to abuse the force of government and subvert both democracy and personal liberty.

Pointing out those factual realities by the use of a phrase historically tied to those same behaviors is hardly hyperbole, and its incidental semantic connection is kinda funny.


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As a reminder, the election is a week from Tuesday, and we can toss some of the people who supported the ban.

If anyone needs info on the candidates positions on this in the 42nd, please send me a private message and I would be happy to provide some insights into the respective positions of the two candidates in that race.


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According to Chicagoist, Hot Dougs will be closed, beginning Monday, until March 5. I'm not sure if this is related to the fine- is it?


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...nope, he's going to France on an "eating vacation"......


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DML wrote:
As a reminder, the election is a week from Tuesday, and we can toss some of the people who supported the ban.

If anyone needs info on the candidates positions on this in the 42nd, please send me a private message and I would be happy to provide some insights into the respective positions of the two candidates in that race.


You can see the vote here: http://www.ward49.com/site/files/322/35 ... e_gras.pdf

It's on page two.


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You can see the vote here: http://www.ward49.com/site/files/322/35 ... e_gras.pdf

It's on page two.


Wow. Evidently the only alderman in the city to vote no is Pat Levar, my very own alderman. He's got my vote next Tuesday.

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“People are actually dying from the cold, and I’m getting hassled because of some sausage,”

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Thought all might find this interesting -- I am in Ottawa, ON and this made the Canadian national news this morning.

Their tag line was "The first fine was administered this weekend under Chicago's foie gras ban... and its not a 4-star restaurant. Stay tuned..."

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Soooo... is it possible to write in Doug Sohn for an uncontested aldermanic election?

:-)

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Soooo... is it possible to write in Doug Sohn for an uncontested aldermanic election?

:-)


FYI - While I understand the sentiments, you will be wasting your vote unless Doug is a declared write-in. I am election judge, the only write-ins we observe is when they are listed as official write-in candidates. How they accomplish this, I don't know.

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Any clue if Doug is taking donations to cover his fine/expenses? I wouldn't mind supporting some civil disobedience.
Jamie


With all due respect to Doug and yourself, I doubt the small fine he could receive is going to pinch him financially.
I marvel at the long lines every time I visit. :)


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jonjonjon wrote:
According to Chicagoist, Hot Dougs will be closed, beginning Monday, until March 5. I'm not sure if this is related to the fine- is it?


How nice of the writer to refer to Hot Doug's sausages as "sketchy".

At least he's being yelled at in the comments.

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Any clue if Doug is taking donations to cover his fine/expenses? I wouldn't mind supporting some civil disobedience.
Jamie


With all due respect to Doug and yourself, I doubt the small fine he could receive is going to pinch him financially.
I marvel at the long lines every time I visit. :)


I don't think the sentament comes for the fact that the fine will have a large impact on Doug or the resturant, but rather it is a show of solidarity against an issue that many here feel fairly strongly about. Also, there have been hints that Doug may want to challenge the fine and may incur some legal fees and folks just want to help in the fight any way they can. Besides, long lines or not, if you ask any resturant owner why they do what they do I'm sure getting rich will be pretty far down on the list and the chances of doing so with a single location with no liquor licence are slim to none.

I'm going to be giving Doug a $20.00 "tip" come Martch 6th 8)


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Jamieson22 wrote:
Any clue if Doug is taking donations to cover his fine/expenses? I wouldn't mind supporting some civil disobedience.
Jamie


I can't say much about it yet, but one of the first projects of the new LTh Roundtable might just be to address something like this. Stay tuned for details.

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Or there's the idea of a Doug Sohn Solidarity LTH Luncheon that afternoon...

I'm off work at 1pm. Just sayin'.

If we bring our own foie gras, we can skate around the ban, correct? I don't want to get anyone in any more trouble, but if there's a loophole we could use to do some good-natured thumb-nosing, I'm all for it.

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I can't say much about it yet, but one of the first projects of the new LTh Roundtable might just be to address something like this. Stay tuned for details.


When I first read about the roundtable idea, the notion of politics playing a part never entered my mind—why would it when this is a forum about food? But now that we have politicians telling us what food we can and cannot eat, I say we use the roundtable to fight back. What a perfect person Doug was to make the stand against this ridiculous ordinance; a person that we almost collectively admire both as a person and as a restaurateur. I say we take his lead and help him with this fight. We may not have much time before the election, but we can help him fight when he goes to court.

Viva la resistance!


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Jamieson22 wrote:
Any clue if Doug is taking donations to cover his fine/expenses? I wouldn't mind supporting some civil disobedience.
Jamie

I can't say much about it yet, but one of the first projects of the new LTh Roundtable might just be to address something like this. Stay tuned for details.



I certainly hope not. I would be disinclined to continue posting on this forum if it became in any way a political advocate, collector of political donations, or otherwise anything other than a free place for discourse on food by freely participating, nonpartisan individual posters. If LTH adopted a political party line that included collecting donations for a political purpose (and that in my mind includes a defense fund for Doug Sohn or anyone else), then I would have to seriously reconsider my continued participation in this forum.

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Doug should serve sausage with kitty liver (not kitty litter, which many competitors put in theirs).

De gustibus non disputandum.


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When I first read about the roundtable idea, the notion of politics playing a part never entered my mind—why would it when this is a forum about food? But now that we have politicians telling us what food we can and cannot eat, I say we use the roundtable to fight back.

Whoa, let's slow our roll a bit here.

LTHForum is non-political and the Roundtable is not the political arm of LTHForum.

The fastest way for LTHForum to devolve into a festering mass of polarized hate filled camps is to start discussing religion and/or politics.

I, frankly, did not see a little love for Hot Doug as political, but, then again, I've been wrong before.

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G Wiv wrote:


The fastest way for LTHForum to devolve into a festering mass of polarized hate filled camps is to start discussing religion and/or politics.

Enjoy,
Gary


How is this any different than discussing BBQ???
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I would agree that LTH is not the place for politics. I don't object to a passing reference or link to something political, but anything formal should be done independently.

BTW, the current TOC has a burger feature; Sweets and Savories takes #1 in the Dressed Up category, with this bit:

Time Out Chicago wrote:
The king of haute burgers still holds court, with its hefty Kobe beef patty topped with a slab of foie gras pâté (the loophole to the ban is that the foie is served as a topping, and not a dish) and a generous slathering of truffle mayonnaise.


I have a hard time believing that this is a loophole and am more likely to believe that they just haven't been targeted yet.

Also according to TOC, tonight is the next Chicago Chefs for Choice benefit event at Cyrano's, although the CCfC website doesn't mention anything with the characteristics of TOC's listing and does list an event for this Sunday.

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germuska wrote:
Time Out Chicago wrote:
The king of haute burgers still holds court, with its hefty Kobe beef patty topped with a slab of foie gras pâté (the loophole to the ban is that the foie is served as a topping, and not a dish) and a generous slathering of truffle mayonnaise.

I have a hard time believing that this is a loophole and am more likely to believe that they just haven't been targeted yet.

Wasn't Doug also using it as a topping?

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G Wiv wrote:


The fastest way for LTHForum to devolve into a festering mass of polarized hate filled camps is to start discussing religion and/or politics.

Enjoy,
Gary


How is this any different than discussing BBQ???
Jamie

I don't remember anyone suggesting civil disobedience when we've discussed BBQ

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Any clue if Doug is taking donations to cover his fine/expenses? I wouldn't mind supporting some civil disobedience.
Jamie


Politics and religion are non topics on LTHForum, have been since day one.

Further discussion of the relevance of religion/politics on LTHForum should be directed to either Site Chat or moderators@lthforum.com

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Gary,

I'm pretty sure Jamie was joking about that.


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Gary,

I'm pretty sure Jamie was joking about that.

OH.......................

Apparently I've lost my sense of humor regarding this particular thread.

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G Wiv wrote:
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Gary,

I'm pretty sure Jamie was joking about that.

OH.......................

Apparently I've lost my sense of humor regarding this particular thread.

Enjoy,
Gary


I understand.

There is nothing funny at all about banning something as delicious as foie gras.


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G Wiv wrote:
Jamieson22 wrote:
G Wiv wrote:


The fastest way for LTHForum to devolve into a festering mass of polarized hate filled camps is to start discussing religion and/or politics.

Enjoy,
Gary


How is this any different than discussing BBQ???
Jamie

I don't remember anyone suggesting civil disobedience when we've discussed BBQ

Jamieson22 wrote:
Any clue if Doug is taking donations to cover his fine/expenses? I wouldn't mind supporting some civil disobedience.
Jamie


Politics and religion are non topics on LTHForum, have been since day one.

Further discussion of the relevance of religion/politics on LTHForum should be directed to either Site Chat or moderators@lthforum.com

Thanks,
Gary


I never intended to turn anything into a political/religious debate or discussion, and not sure how my comments skewed people to believe I was. I certainly wouldn't ever think LTH is a forum to discuss such things.

And the BBQ comment was a joke; you know best way to start a an argument is to discuss politics/religion/bbq...

Jamie


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