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I wonder if there is an internet forum like LTH, but for cannibals... :shock:

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On the subject of foie, I'm going to attempt to walk that fine line of involving politics relevant to the discussion without crossing the line into politicking...

Is anybody else surprised by this? Despite my best wishes, I have a hard time believing that many aldermen would make an about-face on the issue. But on the other hand, Daley certainly doesn't need any more shows of political weakness, so I can't believe he'd push this unless he really believed it would go through. I always figured that if it were to be overturned, it would be under threat of a lawsuit.

Am I missing something?

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Dmnkly wrote:
On the subject of foie, I'm going to attempt to walk that fine line of involving politics relevant to the discussion without crossing the line into politicking...

Is anybody else surprised by this? Despite my best wishes, I have a hard time believing that many aldermen would make an about-face on the issue. But on the other hand, Daley certainly doesn't need any more shows of political weakness, so I can't believe he'd push this unless he really believed it would go through. I always figured that if it were to be overturned, it would be under threat of a lawsuit.

Am I missing something?


I think it is simple.
The Counsel voted on something that they didn't know anything about, and it made them look ridiculous.
That happened often enough recently to cause nine aldermen to lose their seats.
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I'm willing to venture that very few aldermen even really knew what they were voting on or cared about the outcome. They love to grandstand and love a little press. So flip-flopping is no big deal, since (other than the sponsors of the bill) they really had no loyalty one way or the other to start with.

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YoYoPedro wrote:
I'm willing to venture that very few aldermen even really knew what they were voting on or cared about the outcome.


Oh, I absolutely agree. It's just that flip-flopping now would basically be admitting that they didn't do their homework the first time around, and I'm surprised they'd cop to that. Unless they just plan on throwing the Health Committee under the bus, which I suppose makes sense given the degree to which Smith is squawking.

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Dmnkly wrote:
YoYoPedro wrote:
I'm willing to venture that very few aldermen even really knew what they were voting on or cared about the outcome.


Oh, I absolutely agree. It's just that flip-flopping now would basically be admitting that they didn't do their homework the first time around, and I'm surprised they'd cop to that. Unless they just plan on throwing the Health Committee under the bus, which I suppose makes sense given the degree to which Smith is squawking.


Most of the alderman actually use "I didn't do my homwork" as an excuse.

There was a large sign placed in the middle of the sidewalk just north of the Michigan Ave. bridge. That sign advertised a large new building going up. To place the sign, the developer needed city approval.

The now voted-out alderman voted for the sign, but later admitted that had he read the ordinance, he would never have allowed it.

Unfortunately, that is the standard for most of the aldermen.
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In latest foie gras news,

1) (Not surprisingly), the judge tosses the IRA's suit challenging validity of foie gras ban.

2) Bayless campaigns to have law repealed.
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I just enjoyed an excellent break-the-fast dinner at NAHA, highlighted by the squab served with "duck" liver. I would strongly recommend this dish to anyone feeling nostalgic about the pre-Joe Moore dining scene in Chicago. :wink:
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I feel a Modest Proposal coming on.

A new source for foie gras? :twisted:
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GAF wrote:
I feel a Modest Proposal coming on.

A new source for foie gras? :twisted:


This could indeed be the modern take on the original Swift proposal :D

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It's PEOPLE! They're making our food out of PEOPLE! Next thing they'll be breeding us like geese for food. You've gotta tell them, GAF. YOU'VE GOTTA TELL THEM!
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Philadelphia Observer, Sep. 26, 2007, wrote:
Philadelphia has become a foie-gras battleground. City Councilman Jack Kelly plans to introduce a bill to ban the sale of foie gras next year, just as Chicago did last year.

For months, protesters have set up outside the downtown restaurants that serve it and the gourmet retailer Di Bruno Bros., which sells foie gras to home chefs. Two restaurateurs who support foie gras, McNally at London Grill and Georges Perrier of Le Bec-Fin and Brasserie Perrier, have obtained temporary injunctions against Hugs for Puppies to keep protesters from harassing customers. Those restaurants will participate in the promotion.

Activists claimed victory last year when Stephen Starr, who owns a dozen fancy restaurants, promised not to serve it.

A more recent target, David Ansill, chef-owner of Ansill in Queen Village, removed foie gras from his menu earlier this month after protesters hounded his customers and staff and leafleted his neighborhood. "It wasn't worth it," Ansill said. "I caved."

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Okay, so it's an anti-foie gras site, but they post a list of "Places serving Foie Gras in YOur state" It's an unintentional shopping list. Enjoy!

http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/page.ph ... g&state=IL

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Okay, so it's an anti-foie gras site, but they post a list of "Places serving Foie Gras in YOur state" It's an unintentional shopping list. Enjoy!


This is just so deliciously ironic. Thank you!

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Sunday, I spoke to a source with first hand knowledge of the matter. He advised me that he does expect the foie gras ban to be overturned by the City Counsel, but he was not sure on the timetable. The votes appear to be there, but given the huge flap over Grant Park, it is just not on the front burner at this moment. The Grant Park vote is next month. Expect something to happen on foie gras after that is sorted out
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Sybarite wrote:
Okay, so it's an anti-foie gras site, but they post a list of "Places serving Foie Gras in YOur state" It's an unintentional shopping list. Enjoy!

http://www.stopforcefeeding.com/page.ph ... g&state=IL


Interesting, thanks for posting that list. I still thought, however, that the restaurant Atlantique(located on Main St., east of Chicago Ave) in Evanston serves foie gras, if I'm not mistaken. I even remember seeing it on their menu, the last time I walked by there last year.

Also like others here, I'm crossing my fingers that the foie gras ban is eventually overturned, too. We'll see what happens later this year on that.....
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I still thought, however, that the restaurant Atlantique(located on Main St., east of Chicago Ave) in Evanston serves foie gras


Atlantique was in Andersonville, in the space currently occupied by Il Fiasco. I believe the place you're thinking of in Evanston is Oceanique, which does serve foie gras.

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I still thought, however, that the restaurant Atlantique(located on Main St., east of Chicago Ave) in Evanston serves foie gras


Atlantique was in Andersonville, in the space currently occupied by Il Fiasco. I believe the place you're thinking of in Evanston is Oceanique, which does serve foie gras.

Oceanique
505 Main St., Evanston
(847) 864-3435


Yeah, that's what I was trying to think of. Thank you, as I realized after I posted that, the actual name was Oceanique!

And do you know, btw, if the former restaurant Atlantique was owned by the current owner(s) of Oceanique? I've always suspected it was, but I'm not sure about that.
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No connection between the two. Oceanique is owned by its chef, Mark Grosz; Atlantique was owned by Jack Jones, who owns Jack's on Halsted.

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Tomorrow Wednesday May 14, 2008 may be the day that the Foie Gras ban is overturned, according to the Tribune website, but we shall see:

"Aldermen opposed to Chicago's controversial restaurant ban on foie gras said they will try to force a vote Wednesday to repeal the measure, which gained the City Council widespread notoriety since its approval two years ago."

My only comment would be to edit: "gained the City Council additional widespread notoriety. . ."

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I hope city dwellers will make a point of letting their aldermen know their feelings on this issue.

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I hope city dwellers will make a point of letting their aldermen know their feelings on this issue.


If our aldermen actually cared what our feelings were they would have never passed this ban in the first place.

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It's officially reversed.
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Yes, yes, yes!

37-6 in favor of overturning. Moore gets my vote for the quote of the day, "tomorrow it could happen to you". Umm, ok.

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I am very glad that it is no longer illegal. In the words of the da mayor, the ban was "silly."

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Moore gets my vote for the quote of the day, "tomorrow it could happen to you". Umm, ok.


Moore's comment was about the way the vote happened. Regardless of how you feel about the ban, it goes to show that when the Mayor wants something to happen, he still has the power to make it happen. Today that may be good, but tomorrow....
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You mean we're no longer the national laughingstock?

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Fantastic. Never should have been passed, but thankfully, it shows that alderman can be convinced (if they are bludgeoned with rational thought).

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Consuming gross and excessive amounts at the cost to one's liver . . . I think the City Council calls that . . . LUNCH.

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schenked wrote:
I am very glad that it is no longer illegal. In the words of the da mayor, the ban was "silly."

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Moore gets my vote for the quote of the day, "tomorrow it could happen to you". Umm, ok.


Moore's comment was about the way the vote happened. Regardless of how you feel about the ban, it goes to show that when the Mayor wants something to happen, he still has the power to make it happen. Today that may be good, but tomorrow....


Moore is not accurate (what a shocker). Daley's opinion was known on this, but it is not like he tried to walk over the aldermen like he is trying to do with Grant Park. This is something Daley backed, but it impacted all 50 wards. Tunney was the guy who pushed this.

This wasn't Daley walking over the Counsel. This was the Counsel trying to stop acting like a clown.
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