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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:25 am 
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We're heading to Asheville, NC and nearby for a few days. My search of this board turned up two recs (Salsa Mexican Caribbean Restaurant and a pizzeria called Marco's)--am wondering if anyone has more suggestions within an hour or so of the town?

(We'll also be traveling to Campbell Folk School near Murphy, NC and north to Penland School.)

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In the old days when I commuted monthly between Richmond and Nashville, the Biltmore Dairy was a frequent stop.

Biltmore Dairy Bar
115 Hendersonville Rd
Asheville, NC 28803-2868
(828) 274-1501

I beleve that the Biltmore Estates are now more interested in promoting their winery.

http://www.biltmore.com/special/press/nr_general_04.shtml


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There are too many awesome restaurants in Asheville to just recommend a couple.
As for surrounding area, you've got the town of Black Mountain to the east which is a great little town. To the north, is Hot Springs, NC which is worth a day. Horseback riding, and the hot springs are fun. Appalachian Trail runs right through town. Just to the east is my favorite place, Bat Cave, Chimney Rock, and Lake Lure.
The whole area is rich with scenery and interesting things to see and do.


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Too many awesome restaurants in Asheville, hmmm.

Salsa is pretty good. And the Biltmore Dairy Barn has very good milk shakes, and otherwise decent hamburgers, etc.

If you want a drive-in along the route from Asheville to Murphy, I recommend the "Cardinal Drive-In" on the west side of Brevard. Nothing really special food-wise, but an old-fashioned drive-in.

You will be driving through my summer aerie of Highlands, which has a lot of mountain shops, although no restaurant that would be a must visit. However, you can get very nice take-out for picnics at the Rosewood Market on the corner of US 64 and NC Highway 106 on the west side of town. (I particularly recommend the Tomato Basil Soup).

The BBQ this far west in NC is not to be recommended (some is OK); better is mountain trout.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:03 pm 
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Madison's (Old Edwards Inn) - Highlands, North Carolina

About five years ago, the Old Edwards Inn in Highlands was renovated, transformed into a four-star (or five-star or however many stars mean really, really fancy) inn, resort and spa. In the course of this transformation from an old-timey inn on Main Street, they opened a fine dining restaurant, Madison's. In its first iteration it attempted (somewhat bizarrely, and without much grace) to borrow from molecular cuisine and also incorporate a set of rather bizarre flavor combinations. Different is not always better. Back then the restaurant was rather too taken with itself, and my first meal was not a success - quite the contrary with a check that suggested that the owners felt that the food was more sparkling that it was.

However, over the past two years, I have had several improved meals at Madison's, culminating with an excellent dinner last night. The chef de cuisine (at the restaurant for two years now and now in charge of the menu) is Chris Huerta, who worked with Guenter Seeger in Atlanta (at Seeger's, which, until it closed in 2006, was Atlanta's premier restaurant - Seeger is attempting to open a New York restaurant) and who was a stage at Per Se. Huerta is a serious young cook with a serious blog ("Chipped China"). My friends and I were very pleased with the style and assuredness our meal. In strictly culinary terms Madison's is - by some distance - the most accomplished restaurant in the area (go to On the Verandah for the view and good food). Madison's has a quite pretty space and in contrast to some area restaurants is light and airy and is relatively quiet. They also have an ideology of "Farm to Table Dining," which they are expanding - mostly vegetables and pork at this point.

I began with Huerta's Apple and Bacon Hushpuppies (ah! bacon!), which were the best hushpuppies I have ever eaten. Granted claiming that one found the world's best hushpuppies may be akin to picking low-hanging fruit, but they were delicious. A friend had a very creamy (and nicely composed) vidalia onion soup and another companion had a salad of Chilled Local Carolina Shrimp Salad, Florida Citrus, Winter Greens, and Vanilla Citrus Double Cream. Let us ignore the "local" shrimp as we are several hundred miles from the sea in the western Carolina mountains, but the Vanilla Citrus Double Cream was a very becoming complement to the fresh shrimp.

For entree I chose the compelling (although not visually remarkable - unless one likes a symphony of gray and brown) Braised Duck Leg, Celery Root Ravioli, and Stewed Hand Harvested Mushrooms with Natural Jus. It was a luscious combination with perfectly moist duck leg and properly cooked ravioli with its intriguing celery root stuffing. If not quite worth a photo, it was the most polished entree I have had in these mountains since the grand Frog and Owl closed fifteen years ago.

Dessert was an assured smooth vanilla-bean panna cotta with butterscotch sauce and crumbled espresso biscotti and a cornet of vanilla bean (I think) ice cream. Another appealing and modern presentation with a mix of flavors that were delightful, if not quite startling.

Madison's also has an extensive wine list and well-selected wines by the glass.

But for one who spends a month in the mountains each summer, Madison's poses a problem. Should every dinner out be a dinner at Madison's. Is everything else just slumming?

Madison's
Old Edwards Inn
Fourth and Main Street
Highland, North Carolina
866-526-8008 or 828-526-8008
http://www.oldedwardsinn.com/

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:50 am 
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I've heard good things about Fig if you're looking for a nicer place.

One of the great things about Asheville is the wide variety of local beers. In fact, Asheville tied Portland, OR for top beer city in the US recently. When I go to Asheville, I usually end up eating at Barley's, a pizza place. Barley's is the epicenter of the beer scene.

Ed Boudreaux's BBQ next door is OK, too, but nothing stellar.


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What WNC beers do you recommend? Up here in Highlands, there is certainly not a beer culture.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:08 pm 
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GAF wrote:
What WNC beers do you recommend? Up here in Highlands, there is certainly not a beer culture.


Pisgah
Foothills
Duck-Rabbit
Highland

Go to Bruisin Ales, an awesome beer store
66 Broadway Street, Suite 1
Asheville, North Carolina, 28801
United States
phone: (828) 252-8999
http://www.bruisin-ales.com/


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the wimperoo nailed some of my favorites in his post above. I'll try anything Pisgah makes. They've opened a couple of new breweries since I was last there. The Wedge is a brewery that may have food. I tried their IPA at Barley's and it was outstanding. The Lobster Trap is also brewing beer, which is intriguing on a number of levels.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:32 pm 
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Any updates on Asheville? I'm heading there for a long weekend.
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:34 pm 
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My in-laws live there--so I have been going for @ 20 years. I still love Salsa and the owner's other restaurant which is Mexican (called Chorizo) has a nice place to eat outside and very nice fare--good breakfast. Tupelo Honey is a good southern breakfast spot, but be prepared to wait. The Chocolate Fetish has, for me, the most delicious dark chocolate you can buy. Go buy one of their very simple "discs"--nothing fancy, just unbelievable blend and flavor.


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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:53 am 
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So, we just returned from a long weekend in Asheville (thanks for the recs nancy--unfortunately we returned Tuesday but I did enjoy a few truffles at the Chocolate Fetish). My sig. other signed us up for a culinary tour weekend which had some hits and misses. Overall, it was a great weekend in a beautiful part of the country.
We had a couple really good meals there (one I would call truly 'great').
i got to have shrimp and grits for breakfast twice (a childhood fave--my grandmother was from the low country in South Carolina) at Tupelo Honey Cafe and Early Girl Eatery (the former was my favorite).
We like our meal at Table more for the environment and attention to detail on the plate. The food was good but not great, although I loved the dessert: a goat cheese cheese cake with rhubarb compote and honeyed walnuts. I got the most pics there because it had the best natural light.


The table at Table

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Hangar steak at Table

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Soft-shell crabs (good but not ground-breaking) at Table

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Goat cheese cheesecake with rhubarb at Table

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We really liked Rezaz in the Biltmore village which is sort of middle eastern/meditaranean-inspired but the culinary tour set us up with a 'chef's table' (read:dinner in the kitchen) which was lame. We should have moved to the main dining room (it was hot in the kitchen!). My favorite dishes where a lamb chop/hangar steak duo, a trout/scallop duo and a local strawberry dessert trio which featured a little tiny strawberry pie (delicious and adorable).

We had a nice lunch at Fig (though dinner is apparently the best time to go with a more extensive, inventive menu) and enjoyed a pizza and salad at Cucina 24.

Arugula, strawberry, pecan salad, ricotta at Cucina 24
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Mushroom, truffle oil, goat cheese pizza at Cucina 24
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The highlight for me was a cooking class at the Biltmore. I thought it was going to be a letdown when we were directed to the kitchen at one of the Biltmore's banquet facilities. But it turned out, they had just gotten a new chef named Damian Cavicchi who was really terrific. We had been told it would be a hands-on class but it was actually set up as a demo. Upon hearing we wanted to have a hands-on class (well, I did), Damian handed me an apron and showed me how to properly clean/shuck oysters. Basically, it was three hours of cooking/eating with an incredible personable, enthusiastic and experienced professional chef. He showed off all kinds of cook stuff from the walk-in fridge--a tray of duck confit, a big slab of braised pork belly (pic below). I had a blast. And the meal was one of the best I've had in a long time. Highlights were the Berkshire pork belly with maple carmelized onions and corn pudding, a seared bison with pickled asparagus (I will definitely be making/posting on these), blue point oysters Rockafeller (sort of hated to bury the delicious oyster, but it was good), a dessert of a goat cheese fritter on grapes tossed in olive oil and rosemary. Really amazing experience--highly recommended if you have a spare day in Asheville (though I'm not sure how to set it up if you don't go through the whole tour)

Braised Pork Belly Slab at the Lioncrest, Biltmore Estate (beautifully marbled, the pic doesn't do it justice)
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In summary, Asheville is a great long-weekend destination. I'll definitely be back.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:56 am 
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Forgot to add that the Biltmore Dairy was closed to make way for the Biltmore Winery. We didn't stop at the winery but the wines we tasted from Biltmore weren't so hot.


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Wow! What a great description of your trip--was so glad to hear about what you did. What kind of culinary tour were you on--your own or organized? How was the day at Biltmore arranged? Glad you got to Tupelo Honey and it satisfied...it is a great town...but, a lot of people have discovered it which has brought good eats but it is congested....Cheers, Nancy


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any chance your trip arranged by mark rosenstein?


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nancy wrote:
What kind of culinary tour were you on--your own or organized? How was the day at Biltmore arranged?


nancy wrote:
any chance your trip arranged by mark rosenstein?


The trip was actually a gift so I'm not sure of all the details. I know that it was set up through Epitourean.com. We had a very nice time but I'm not sure I would recommend the entire package of the tour. The highlight was really the Biltmore cooking class (really due to the chef teaching it and I'm not sure he does all the classes--I think we may have just lucked out). There may be a way to set up classes directly through the Biltmore--I'm not sure.


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Has anyone eaten at The Admiral in Asheville? Is it a strong restaurant for the region?

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Another year, another dinner at Madison's, the flagship restaurant at the Old Edwards Inn (the high-end resort/spa/hotel on Main Street in Highlands, North Carolina) that at its best really hits a groove. I have great admiration for the chef Chris Huerta, who is a serious student of what is known as modern American cuisine. Although we are now finding very creative restaurants in rural areas that are serious dining destinations (Town House in Chilhowie, Virginia; Volt in Frederick, Maryland; Revolver in Findlay, Ohio; June in Peoria Heights, Illinois), Madison's doesn't quite fit this model. As a hotel, it caters to many well-heeled guests who prefer well-cooked mainstream cuisine (my wife ordered a Caesar Salad and a Seared Ribeye - she enjoyed both of them, but both could have been had at most well-chefed upper-middle strata restaurants). Madison's must balance the desire of their customers not to be surprised, and the desire of the chef to spread his wings. Someday I would love to see Chef Huerta open his own place in Atlanta, Chicago, or Brooklyn.

Of the three dishes that I ordered one was truly superb, one had considerable potential (slightly limited by the cut of striped bass), and one, the dessert, was quite tasty, but aiming for a general audience. Part of Madison's strategy - and they are not alone in this - is to constitute themselves as farm-to-table cuisine, permitting them to avoid some of the excesses of modern cuisine in the name of authenticity. As I have stated elsewhere, I am skeptical that I would be able to taste the difference between local ingredients and distant ingredients if the menu did not advertise the fact. When I see a reference to, say, field mushrooms from Cowpie Farms, I don't know whether this is the same farm from which the fungi have always come, but now a publicist has crowned the farm with a name. (The Old Edwards Inn has a farm garden and grows some of its own food).

The appetizer, Pancetta Wrapped Palmetto Quail with Roasted Apples, Dates, Swiss Chard, and Natural Jus, was a distinguished dish. Confident, subtle, complex, moist, and exquisite. Dates, it must be pointed out, are not known to be native to North Carolina and it might be a bit early for apples. I assume that quails are somewhere about (South Carolina?), but I am no hunter. But philosophical quibbles aside, it was as glorious a dish as might be desired.

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The entree, Striped Bass with Truffled White Asparagus, Poached Peaches, Spinach, and Lemon Creme Fraiche, was well-conceived (it is a little late for asparagus, which unlike its sunlit green cousin, tends toward the mushy). But the accompaniments matched well, and it was a pretty plate. The fish, while not over-cooked was not translucent, and in talking with Chef Huerta after dinner, I learned that they received a bass that was of a larger size than desired, requiring some extra cooking to avoid toughness. The spiced crust on the fish was exceptionally flavorful as was the Lemon Creme Fraiche.

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As mentioned, the dessert - Warm Banana Cake with Rum Raisin Ice Cream in Dark Myers Rum Sauce - was sweet and good, but no challenge to the senses. It was well-made, but owing more to tradition that to innovation, although the puck-like cake was nicely moist and well-textured.

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There are many restaurants in this resort community - On the Verandah, Wolfgang's - where one can eat a well-cooked meal, but it is only at Madison's where there are flashes of brilliance. Granted these flashes are particularly evident in the specials, but that is why they are called specials.

Madison's
Old Edwards Inn
Fourth and Main Street
Highland, North Carolina
866-526-8008
828-526-8008
http://www.oldedwardsinn.com/

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:22 pm 
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went on a weekend road-trip to Asheville last month with my girlfriend, such a great city.

wanted to "second" positive reviews for Early Girl Eatery (I'm still enjoying Tupelo Honey Cafe but this time I was more impressed with Earl Girl for brunch), and Table where we had a delicious dinner that wouldn't have been out of place at, for example, the Bristol.

Also the area is fantastic for local beers, my favorite of which is Pisgah, a small all organic brewery in Swananoa, you can only get the beer in the area and its fantastic.


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Admiral is the best place in Asheville for fine dining. It gets better after you drive up and get inside.

http://theadmiralnc.com/


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Since I asked the question about Admiral, I have eaten there, and I agree that it is excellent and worth a trip. It has a roadhouse feel to it in ambiance, but the cuisine is Southern modernist, served with panache. I prefer Curate slightly, but Admiral is an important contribution to the region and is more attuned to the region than Curate (an exceptional tapas bar).

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I moved to just outside Asheville three years ago and while the food choices here are nowhere near what's in Chicago there are some gems.
The Admiral, Sunny Point Cafe, Corner Kitchen, 12 Bones, White Duck Taco, and Tupelo Honey are all worth visiting.
We're even getting some food trucks like Gypsy Queen for Lebanese, The Pink Taco with Indian fry bread bowl tacos, and The Lowdown which has great Banh Mi among other choices.
All these places have locally grown ingredients as the main focus for their food which alone wont help a bad dish, but really makes good ones shine.
Along with the huge local craft beer scene and some small batch whiskey startups marketed as moonshine we aren't going thirsty down here either.
I don't mean to sound like a chamber of commerce ad, but Asheville is slowly coming along as a place with some exciting food.


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On a trip that fell this New Year's Eve day, we passed through Asheville very briefly. As the downtown area was crowded, with zero parking, and a loud-speaker-assisted rant from a man lamenting equally passionately the limitations of our health care system and the disappointments of his dating life, we decided to head to the outskirts of town. My husband uses this strategy to find taquerias, and it often works. His reasoning has to do with affordable rent and the availability of former fast food restaurant buildings that can be easily adapted to new and better use. I was very glad to bypass the chain options at the intersection where we found Cocula.

For reference, here is the sign and a picture of the exterior:

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Cocula Sign by Josephine2004, on Flickr

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Cocula Exterior by Josephine2004, on Flickr

We had our Labrador with us, and the nice owners were very accommodating. They served us on the patio in spite of the cold weather. It may be that they were geared up with their best offerings for the New Year's Eve crowd. It may be that the everyday tacos would not measure up to the delicious barbacoa, lengua, al pastor and carnitas tacos we ate during our stop there. But if you are in the area, give them a try. These were some of the best tacos I had all year, being moist, properly seasoned, and generously filled with high quality meat.

Cocula
1297 Tunnel Rd
Asheville, NC 28805
(828) 299-1255

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I'd rank The Admiral among the top tier of restaurants in the Southeast. I've been several times and drive out of my way to eat there.

That said, the chef is leaving and opening a new place that also looks exciting:
Seven Sows Bourbon & Larder
www.sevensows.com

I'm looking forward to checking this place out!


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