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Does anyone have solid info about the importation status of sichuan pepercorns? Last year I heard that importation was being banned because they carried some kind of virus that was extremely harmful to citrus crops. So I hoarded as many as I could find since I use a lot of them.

Recently I was in an Asian grocery store and there in the Vietnamese section were tons of these things. At least they look and smell like them. They were labeled "Dried Pepper Corn - Hoa Tieu from China".

A Google search turns up a number of sites which mention that they are again available for sale.



I couldn't find anything at the USDA site about either the ban or the lifting of it. I'm wondering if what I have are legal heat-treated or old ones from before the ban or contraband. Again, does anyone have any solid info about the status of the ban?

Bill/SFNM

During a visit to the spice house a number of months ago they said the ban had been lifted (if you heat-treat) and they'd have sichuan peppercorns any day now. They still don't, as far as I know..

-ed

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I had a nice chat with a fellow at The Spice House in November and he confirmed that, though the ban's been lifted, they wouldn't receive sichuan peppercorn anytime soon. Last September I tracked some down in Chinatown in an apothcary whose name escapes me. However, just a couple of weeks ago I saw them in the Chinatown Market. That's the market inbetween the outdoor mall and Chinatown proper.
Unfortunately, these peppercorns are the dark, wizened variety(not approved by Fuscia Dunlop). They're good for sichuan pepper/salt condiment, not much else.

I recently purchased Sichuan Peppercorns at Viet Hoa Grocery (1101 W Argyle St, Chicago, IL 60640). They seemed fairly fresh - the peppers had that lemony, pungent quality, and cooked well in the recent dishes I've made.

I finally got Land of Plenty and am looking to stock up on dry goods. Is there a particular grocer in Chinatown that is good and carries sichuan peppercorns? Thanks.

I've purchased sichuan peppercorn from two purveyors in Chinatown: Chinatown Market and an apothecary adjacent(on the street, not in the mall) to the market. Both purchases are unfortunately indistinguishable from Japanese Sansho; dry, wizened husks. They're good for salt/sichuan peppercorn condiment and not much else. I've yet to encounter the fresh sichuan peppercorn described in Dunlop's book.

they had sichuan peppercorns at mayflower (est end of the chinatown mall) recently, of decent quality, though it wasn't labeled as such maybe just pepper? I forget, but they're easily identifiable.

This from the Spice House Newsletter today:

SICHUAN PEPPERCORNS ARE BACK.
Returning after a long hiatus, we are happy to announce that Sichuan Peppercorns are back in our roster of spices. The Sichuan peppercorn isn’t a rare or expensive spice; its absence was due to a 1968 ban on importation caused by a canker it was afflicted with. This in no way harmed humans but it affected citrus crops. The ban was only enforced in the last few years when the canker became a devastating problem to the citrus industry in Florida. In January of 2004 a heat treatment for Sichuan peppercorns was approved to allow importation, and they are now finally available.

http://www.thespicehouse.com

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Awesome. I was already planning a general restocking trip in the next few days.

ChiNOLA,

I bought a couple of ounces of The Spice House's Sichuan peppercorns and they are quite nice. Different than Sichuan peppercorns I have used in the past as these are very fresh, not 100% dried. No twigs and stems, just peppercorns.

I have not used the Spice House Sichuan peppercorns in cooking as of yet, but I did chew on one for a bit and it had nice flavor, though possibly not quite as intense as those as I've had in the past. My tastebuds might have been a bit off though as I was having a large batch of BBQ rub made up and had been sampling the rub in various stages prior to munching on the Sichuan peppercorn.

Enjoy,
Gary

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I've been enjoying The Spice House sichuan peppercorns for awhile now.
They're much fresher than others I've found elsewhere. They give a pleasent, fizzy, low-voltage kick to the lips, tip of the tongue and back of the throat. I toasted some for chili oil and dipping salt. I also enjoy springing them str8 on friends unfamiliar with the effect.

does anybody have a recipe that really highlights the flavor of these? I just got my first bag and they smell so interesting...I just don't know a good way to use them!

Do you have "The Breath of a Wok" by Grace Young? The first recipe in the book, Chicken with Sichuan Peppercorns CCTI, is just so darn good, I've made it a dozen times this year. I couldn't find a link to it on the net, but this is a "must have" book.

Bill/SFNM

For investigation into the use of sichuan peppercorn I highly recommend Fuschia Dunlop's Land of Plenty.

Here's the recipe Bill is talking about, I think.

You can order the book from amazon here.

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RIP LTH.

that chicken looks delicious! i'll let you know how it goes...

after that article about exotic ice creams in the Tribune last week, i have to say that the thought of sichuan peppercorn & fruit ice cream has crossed my mind as well...

so, i made the chicken stir-fry last night using the peppercorns, and it was out of this world. the only thing i might do differently next time is add some veggies to make more of a single-dish meal out of it, because it's meant to be served alongside lots of other items. it really showcased the peppercorns' distinctive flavors.

thanks!

I too highly, highly recommend the dunlop book. For instance the very easy recipe on p143 for cold chicken with sichuan pepper and sesame oil sauce.

basically the sauce is teaspoon of whole s. peppercorns, ground. 5 scallions(green only) whizzed into a paste, 1/4 tsp salt, 3 Tbsp stock, 2 Tbsp light soy, 1 1/2 Tbsp sesame oil. That's it, stir it all up, and you have a great dressing, that it good for summer, uses up some of the extra scallion greens, and showcases the Peppercorns.

We use it on left over Roast Chicken (as long the chicken itself wasn't highly seasoned) or steamed asian eggplants

The Spice House in Old Town now has a nice, fresh supply of Sechuan peppercorns. I bought some. Now I need a recipe to use them in. Any suggestions?

Sorry, I didn't read far enough down the page. Obviously my previous post was a tad redundant.

Ed,

Yes, that the exact recipe Bill/SFNM referenced, I just checked. Page 68 The Breath of a Wok by Grace Young.

I think I'll make it, Chicken with Sichuan Peppercorns, for dinner tonight.

Enjoy,
Gary

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Turned out quite nice, easy to make, once you prep the various stages, and excellent flavor. Surprisingly, I was out of chile oil, so I made a small amount by infusing crushed red in simmering peanut oil. Only slight modification for next time is I could have used a little more Sichuan Peppercorn bite.

My wife thought the dish delicious. Thanks for the recommendation Bill/SFNM. Any additional suggestions from The Breath of a Wok?

Sichuan Peppercorns.


Mise en place


Stir fry the chicken


Add the aromatics


Add sauce ingredients.


I love my Hitachi non-fuzzy logic 15-year-old rice cooker.


Ready to go.


Time to eat.


Enjoy,
Gary

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Gary,

Glad you and your wife enjoyed the chicken. I think I use a much hotter wok than you do since mine comes out looking quite a bit different from yours. The chicken has a much darker glaze and the liquid is almost completely cooked away. It takes just a minute for it to cook and I can barely see what is going on in the wok through all the smoke and steam. I'll take photos next time I make it.

Virginia Yee's Moo Shoo Pork (p. 84) is excellent, especially with smoked pork belly (omit the marinate). Also, try Shrimp and Pine Nuts (p. 114) and Brocolli with Ginger Sauce (p. 140). They're all good!

Bill/SFNM

Bill,

Good observation, you're absolutely right, I did not crank my wok up last night. Not really sure why, though it's kind of ironic given I was making a recipe from The Breath of a Wok.

Looking forward to your pictures, but please do not make the Sichuan Peppercorn Chicken look as good as the pizza you recently posted, I took a bite out of the monitor and broke a tooth.

Enjoy,
Gary

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Made this for dinner last night, turned out great. Thanks for the pictures, and thanks to Bill for the recipe link!

Sichuan peppercorn was what the 'curator', Mr. Cho? of the Chinese BBQ tour was talkin about while he was giving the recipe for the stock of soy sauce chicken @ Wing Chan. not coriander. definitely NOT coriander.

per this link:
http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/gen ... t_pip.html

the 2 spices (beyond the 5 spice power) commonly used in every pot of soy sauce based stew is : ba jiǎo (star of anise) and hua jiāo (sichuan peppercorn). as Cathy reminded me in the back of Win Chan's kitchen, yes, you can wrap the 2 up in cheesecloth and toss it in the pot. but as a teenager, i was lazy and always got yelled at when the parents bit in the random hua jiāo.

Gary,

Here are the photos. At your request, I used a special Photoshop filter to make the chicken look less delicious.




Bill/SFNM

I found an online source for these and thought of you guys here. I know there are places that carry them and you know the quality, etc...but I just thought I'd throw this out there if anyone was looking for an online resource:

http://www.spicesetc.com/ShowView/product/2767/12

The prices look pretty reasonable if you intend to order a large quantity.

Also, these things numb up my entire mouth for a fair amount of time! I was very scared I was having an allergic reaction when I came across them in some take out once...my husband did not have the same response (once I figured out what was causing it, of course I made him try one). Is my reaction strong enough to border on being mildly allergic? I have stayed away from them since as it wasn't exactly pleasant.

Christine

They're also available, for a much lower price, online from The Spice House, where 1oz costs you $1.59, versus $3.95 from Spices Etc. Of course, as volume goes up the difference in price goes down.

And the numbing effect is very normal.

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RIP LTH.

and if you happen to be in the Murray Hill section of Manhattan, Kalustyan's carries a slightly older batch than those available from The Spice House. They look useable, but I can get mine a few blocks away.

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