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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:14 pm 
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Hi,

I've never cooked crawfish, though I have cooked lobster. If a 1.25-1.5 pound lobster steams cooked in 12-13 minutes, I would think a crawfish is considerably less than 10 minutes.

Meanwhile, I looked around for crawfish cooking times. BoilCrawfish.com offers step by step advice on how to prepare. This includes a cooking time of 15 minutes.

I hope nr706 will chime in with his experience on cooking Wisconsin's non-native crawfish.

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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
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Crawfish are small and cook quickly but that is not the concern. Crawfish are freshwater creatures and as such are relatively salt free and without salt, not as palatable as a Maine lobster.(except to a Wisconsin Trout that love crayfish!) (Crawfish in LA, crayfish in WI)The lack of salt is the reason that a 'crawfish boil' uses both liquid and solid enhancements AND the crawfish are left to steep in the liquid for longer than one would think needed for the crawfish to cook.-Dick


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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
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Hello, does anyone know where I can get live Crawfish around Northeastern Illinois, I only need about 3 1/4 pounds not the 10 pds you get when you order online. Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:36 pm 
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Chicagoo wrote:
Hello, does anyone know where I can get live Crawfish around Northeastern Illinois, I only need about 3 1/4 pounds not the 10 pds you get when you order online. Thank you.

Hi,

From reading http://www.crayfishman.com/, he cannot deliver to Illinois or California. It suggests there is a law against it.

My feeling you need to find a source in southeastern Wisconsin in order to obtain them live.

I have known people who had crawfish shipped in live overnight. Either the rules have changed or people are bending the law. I hope someone in the know might offer an explanation.

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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
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Your source is selling Rusty Crayfish, a non-native invasive species.
This reference provides the Illinois DNR Regulation against importing crayfish into Illinois.-Dick
http://www.ifishillinois.org/pdf/09FishingGuide.pdf
More info http://dnr.wi.gov/org/caer/ce/eek/critt ... ayfish.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:09 am 
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From Bud's link from the DNA
Quote:
CRAYFISH
It is a violation of state law to import, possess,
sell or use as bait live rusty crayfish within the
State of Illinois. The rusty crayfish may be distinguished
by a dark rusty spot on both sides
of the carapace and a rusty-red band followed
by a dark stripe on the large pincers (claws).
This species destroys aquatic vegetation and
eats the eggs of various fishes, which negatively
affects fish reproduction.
Crayfish, except endangered or threatened
species, may be taken for bait, using legal
sized cast nets, shad scoops, and minnow
seines, provided that they are not sold or
bartered. All cast nets shall not be larger than
8 feet in diameter or of a mesh size not larger
than 3/8 inch bar measurement. All shad
scoops shall not be larger than 30 inches in
diameter or of a mesh size not larger than 1/2
inch bar measurement or longer than 4 feet in
length. Minnow seines shall not be longer than
20 feet, deeper than 6 feet or contain mesh
size larger than 1/2 inch bar measurement.
Crayfish may be collected with traps of metal
screen or hardware cloth, plastic, or nylon
mesh or netting. Such traps may not be more
than 24 inches in width or diameter or more
than 36 inches in length nor use a mesh of
more than 1/2 inch bar measurement. Each
entrance aperture may not exceed 1 1/2 inches
in diameter. If unattended, such devices must
be tagged with the name and mailing address
of the person operating the device. Crayfish
collected in such devices may only be taken for
personal use and may not be sold or bartered.

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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:10 am 
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HI,

What are the crayfish people have shipped in from the South?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:45 pm 
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BigT wrote:
thanks, sounds like I need to find a full propane tank, I'd rather be safe than sorry anyway.

boudrealuicious - don't worry, I wasn't planning on boiling them for an hour. I figure it'll take about 20-30 minutes for the water to boil initially, throw in the zataran's boil mix for a few minutes, toss in the sausage/corn/garlic/lemon for 10-15 minutes, then toss in the crayfish for another 5-10 minutes. I figure the gas will need to run for about an hour or so, does that sound about right?

I just caught a bunch of crayfish up north. I usually boil them in Old Bay for 3 - 5 min max. I think 10 minutes would be okay if you like to chew on rubber.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:19 pm 
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nr706 wrote:
BigT wrote:
thanks, sounds like I need to find a full propane tank, I'd rather be safe than sorry anyway.

boudrealuicious - don't worry, I wasn't planning on boiling them for an hour. I figure it'll take about 20-30 minutes for the water to boil initially, throw in the zataran's boil mix for a few minutes, toss in the sausage/corn/garlic/lemon for 10-15 minutes, then toss in the crayfish for another 5-10 minutes. I figure the gas will need to run for about an hour or so, does that sound about right?

I just caught a bunch of crayfish up north. I usually boil them in Old Bay for 3 - 5 min max. I think 10 minutes would be okay if you like to chew on rubber.


Wouldn't that depend on how many crayfish you threw into the pot? Putting in 3-10 pounds of cold crayfish would take several minutes just to get back to boiling.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:45 pm 
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nr706 wrote:
I just caught a bunch of crayfish up north. I usually boil them in Old Bay for 3 - 5 min max. I think 10 minutes would be okay if you like to chew on rubber.

Hi,

Do you steep the crawfish in their cooking liquid later? Or do you pull after the 3-5 minute boil?

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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:00 am 
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Yes, quantity is an issue - but my boil usually comes back in a minute or so. These are not cold crayfish - they're fresh from the lake. I pull them about a minute after they've turned bright red, and then chill or freeze. I have this year's bunch in the fridge right now, ready to peel.

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Bug size would matter too, right? I've only ever worked with the big fatties from LA...are the local varieties similar? And Cathy is correct that you would usually steep following boil so factor that in as well...

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nr706 wrote:
Yes, quantity is an issue - but my boil usually comes back in a minute or so. These are not cold crayfish - they're fresh from the lake. I pull them about a minute after they've turned bright red, and then chill or freeze. I have this year's bunch in the fridge right now, ready to peel.

Hi,

Have you ever steeped them? Or is the flavor good without steeping?

If you abandoned the step of steeping, why? Everyone seems to suggest it is a necessary step to impart flavor. I wonder if it could toughen them, which happens with overcooked lobster.

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nr706 wrote:
I just caught a bunch of crayfish up north. I usually boil them in Old Bay for 3 - 5 min max. I think 10 minutes would be okay if you like to chew on rubber.


I might have to resort to trying to trap some if I can't find a local source for them. How did you catch them? Was this in a river, lake, etc?

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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
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We are going up to a resort on Little St. Germain lake and would love to have a crawfish boil, but apparently that lake has no rusty crayfish. I'm not sure if it has native crayfish. I was wondering if any places up there would sell live crayfish. Anybody know?

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nr706 wrote:
I get crawfish every summer at our place in Northern Wisconsin. Apparently, the "rusty crayfish" was introduced to the lake as bait, and they took over and dominated the local natural species. So any efforts to remove a few of them are appreciated by the DRN. They're easy to catch with a crawfiish trap, which every hardware store has there, and I usually come home with a pound or two of the little "lake lobsters".

As ekreider notes, if you're catching them, you need to lhem sit in the water - away from their food - for a day or so, to let them purge their intestines.


nr706 wrote:
I don't know anything specific about the Louisiana strain; I've gotten frozen crayfish at Marketplace on Oakton (Skokie) for $1.99/lb, IIRC. The rusty crayfish I catch are a little smaller than the ones I've seen at Marketplace, but that may be a function of my technique (I've learned that putting out the traps a little deeper yields bigger crayfish). Physically, other than the size, there's not much difference, although the Rustys do have the characteristic brown spot on each side of the carapace. And their flavor is maybe a little more concentrated. Plus, you can throw 3-4 ounces of nearly rotten meat into a couple of crayfish traps, and 8 - 10 hours or so later you've got 30 - 40 crayfish.

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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:54 pm 
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imsscott wrote:
We are going up to a resort on Little St. Germain lake and would love to have a crawfish boil, but apparently that lake has no rusty crayfish. I'm not sure if it has native crayfish. I was wondering if any places up there would sell live crayfish. Anybody know?

I'd be surprised if Little St. Germain lake has no rusty crayfish ... it's not that far from our place, and all the lakes around us are overrun with them. If you go wading in the lake and feel something tickling your toes, you'll know there are crayfish there. Northern Highlands in Boulder Junction has good crayfish traps that aren't too expensive, but there may be a hardware store closer that has them, too. Technically, you need a fishing license to trap crayfish, but practically, I doubt any DNR agent would give you much hassle, because by trapping them you're basically removing an invasive, destructive, delicious pest from the lake.

But, as they are pests, I doubt any place would sell you live crayfish - I certainly haven't seen anywhere that does.

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"Technically, you need a fishing license to trap crayfish, but practically, I doubt any DNR agent would give you much hassle"

DNR Wardens enforce the Regulations.
You will receive a Citation for breaking the Regulations in Wisconsin.-Dick


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:41 pm 
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Kraftskiva (Swedish Crayfish Party):

http://invasivore.org/2011/03/recipe-ca ... ish-boils/

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 Post subject: Live crawfish?
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Is there anywhere in Chicago that sells live crawfish? Saw a similar thread that only listed places that carried frozen so I thought I'd re submit.


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http://www.yelp.com/biz/tai-nam-food-ma ... q=crawfish

Tai Nam Market consistently has crawfish it seems along with lobsters, crab etc.

Although if you want the latter go to Seafood World around the corner on the North side of Argyle.


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nr706 wrote:
imsscott wrote:
We are going up to a resort on Little St. Germain lake and would love to have a crawfish boil, but apparently that lake has no rusty crayfish. I'm not sure if it has native crayfish. I was wondering if any places up there would sell live crayfish. Anybody know?

I'd be surprised if Little St. Germain lake has no rusty crayfish ... it's not that far from our place, and all the lakes around us are overrun with them. If you go wading in the lake and feel something tickling your toes, you'll know there are crayfish there. Northern Highlands in Boulder Junction has good crayfish traps that aren't too expensive, but there may be a hardware store closer that has them, too. Technically, you need a fishing license to trap crayfish, but practically, I doubt any DNR agent would give you much hassle, because by trapping them you're basically removing an invasive, destructive, delicious pest from the lake.

But, as they are pests, I doubt any place would sell you live crayfish - I certainly haven't seen anywhere that does.


For the record, Little St. Germain lake does not have rusty crayfish, nor any appreciable populations of native crayfish. I was asking whether there was any place in the area that sold crayfish, not for instructions on how to catch them.

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Alton Brown did a Good Eats program this morning on a crawfish boil, using about 20 pounds of live mud bugs. He put in his seasonings and spices, brought about 4 gallons of water to a boil in his outdoor turkey fryer pot (he had a basket, though that's not absolutely necessary) let that go for ten minutes or so, added the vegetables and boiled another 15 minutes, and dumped in the crawfish.

He let them boil for three minutes, then turned off the heat and let everything steep for 10 minutes, and turned it all out onto old newspapers. He showed how to break off the tails and squeeze out the meat, and also how to suck heads: he was a little more thorough than what I was taught as a tourist in a Louisiana roadhouse... he sucked and crushed the carapace with his fingers and really slurped out everything.

I miss me some 'bugs, but it's too dang expensive to ship 'em up here frozen, let alone pay the airfare to get live ones! We had a lot when my son lived in Houston and we visited frequently. During those years, we got to Houston much more often than we got to downtown Chicago.

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 Post subject: Re: Live Crawfish
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:53 pm 
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Hi,

I saw live crawfish selling for less than $5 per pound at Richwell Market in Chinatown last Saturday. They were a rather lively bunch with bubbling water to keep the water aerated.

Richwell Market
1835 S Canal St Chicago, IL 60616
(312) 226-9611

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