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    Post #1 - June 15th, 2018, 7:22 pm
    Post #1 - June 15th, 2018, 7:22 pm Post #1 - June 15th, 2018, 7:22 pm
    I posted a picture of Dan Dan Noodle I made for dinner, was asked for a recipe. I've combined/tweaked elements of multiple recipes/cooks/techniques into my own spin. Also, I've come to realize there is nothing even close to a standard recipe.

    What follows is my current (6.18) Dan Dan Noodle. Pictures after recipe.

    Dan Dan Noodle
    Gary Wiviott Recipe as of 6.18

    Serving Size:
    2 generous meal portions

    Ingredients:

    8 oz ground beef (80/20)
    1 tablespoon neutral oil
    1 tablespoon minced garlic
    1 tablespoon minced ginger
    2 tablespoon crushed red pepper
    3 tablespoon Szechuan peppercorns
    1 tablespoon soy sauce
    1 tablespoon dark sesame oil
    2 tablespoons Chinkiang or Zhenjiang vinegar
    3 tablespoons sesame paste (tahini)
    3 tablespoons chili oil, homemade or Lao Gan Ma brand
    4 tablespoons Chinese preserved vegetable minced, rinsed
    1 pound fresh Chinese noodles
    5 scallions sliced into thin rounds
    1 cup water from boiling noodles, divided into 1/2 cup portions

    Directions:

    Toast, grind, combine, Szechuan peppercorns and crushed red pepper. This will make more than is needed for recipe. I like to add more as I eat.
    Saute beef with oil, breaking up as it cooks
    As beef cooks add 1/2 tablespoon, of ground toasted Szechuan peppercorn and crushed red pepper mix
    When beef is just cooked though add garlic and ginger.
    Saute until fragrant, about 45 seconds
    Add minced rinsed preserved veg
    Saute until fragrant, about 45 seconds
    Remove beef mixture to bowl, set aside

    Combine soy, sesame oil, vinegar, sesame paste, chili oil. Whisk, divide into two bowls, set aside.

    Cook fresh noodles in lightly salted boiling water until just done, drain, reserving 2 cups cooking water. (Recipe calls for 1 cup divided, its always good to have a little extra on hand)

    To Serve:

    Add 1/2 cup hot noodle boiling water to each bowl of soy, sesame oil, vinegar, sesame paste, chili oil. Whisk.
    Add 1/3 cooked noodle to each bowl, you will have leftover noodles.
    Top each bowl with 1/2 of ground beef mixture
    Top each bowl with chopped scallions
    Dust top of each bowl with scant teaspoon Szechuan peppercorn/hot pepper mix. Or to taste.
    Take picture, stir incorporating sauce from bottom and meat into noodle. Take another picture.
    Eat, enjoy. Repeat

    Notes:

    Dan Dan noodle is an infinitely variable dish, above is my version as of June 2018
    Feel free to:
    Top with roughly chopped peanuts, sesame seeds, additional chili oil
    Add additional noodle water if mix is too thick or you prefer a soupier version
    Add additional ground Szechuan peppercorn/crushed red pepper mix as needed while eating
    Add additional chili oil as needed while eating
    Substitute ground pork/chicken/lamb/turkey/duck/emu for ground beef. If using lean meat such as ground white meat chicken (blah) increase oil to 2 tablespoons
    If you wish to use full amount of noodle simply increase ingredients (aside from noodle) by 1/3rd
    May be made in one large bowl, mixed and divided into portions as part of multi course meal or starter.
    This is a moderately spicy version, though not over the top in deference to my wife. Feel free to adjust mala level up or down per individual taste

    Notes for next Dan Dan iteration:
    Add heaping tablespoon Pixian Doubanjiang to ground beef after adding ginger/garlic. This will make for a noticeably spicier Dan Dan Noodle

    DanDanRecipe6.jpg Completed Dan Dan Noodle after dusting with Szechuan peppercorn/dried hot pepper mix

    DanDanRecipe5.jpg Bowl on left is brides, she is not a fan of extra hot thus no additional Szechuan peppercorn/dried hot pepper mix

    DanDanRecipe4.jpg Sauce before adding hot noodle water

    DanDanRecipe2.jpg My favorite store bought chili oil, either pictured or Spicy Chili Crisp. Both same brand

    DanDanRecipe3.jpg Ingredients you may need a Chinese grocery to find

    DanDanIng6.jpg Zhenjiang vinegar, interchangeable with Chinkiang vinegar
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  • Post #2 - June 20th, 2018, 7:08 pm
    Post #2 - June 20th, 2018, 7:08 pm Post #2 - June 20th, 2018, 7:08 pm
    Another round of Dan Dan Noodle, and the beat goes on . . .

    DanDanLTH3.jpg Dan Dan Noodle.
    DanDanLTH1.jpg Mixed, ready to eat.

    DanDanLTH2.jpg Ducks in a row.

    DanDanLTH4.jpg Ducks in a Row
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  • Post #3 - June 20th, 2018, 8:33 pm
    Post #3 - June 20th, 2018, 8:33 pm Post #3 - June 20th, 2018, 8:33 pm
    Concurrent obsessions: French omelette and now Dan Dan Noodle.

    Keep it coming!
    Cathy2

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  • Post #4 - June 20th, 2018, 8:36 pm
    Post #4 - June 20th, 2018, 8:36 pm Post #4 - June 20th, 2018, 8:36 pm
    I had written this before I saw Cathy's post.

    G Wiv wrote:Another round of Dan Dan Noodle, and the beat goes on . . .

    G Wiv wrote:French Omelette. Tasty, B- form factor. And the beat goes on . . .

    You should consider combining your current home-cooking obsessions and make a dan dan noodle omelette. It's not such a crazy idea: think of Andy's pad thai omelette (ATK and TAC). The more I think about it, the better it sounds. Get to work!!
  • Post #5 - June 21st, 2018, 6:19 am
    Post #5 - June 21st, 2018, 6:19 am Post #5 - June 21st, 2018, 6:19 am
    Cathy2 wrote:Concurrent obsessions: French omelette and now Dan Dan Noodle

    Dan Dan is more interest, French Omelette I'm committed/obsessed. Like the difference between a chicken and pig re breakfast. Chicken is involved, pig committed.

    Rene G wrote:You should consider combining your current home-cooking obsessions and make a dan dan noodle omelette. It's not such a crazy idea:

    Not crazy at all, thanks for the idea. In the next couple of days I'm going to blend an Omurice style omelette and Dan Dan noodle. For those not familiar with Omurice, I strongly suspect Rene G is, here's a short YouTube Video. Its pretty cool. ------> Link
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  • Post #6 - June 21st, 2018, 7:16 am
    Post #6 - June 21st, 2018, 7:16 am Post #6 - June 21st, 2018, 7:16 am
    Huh. I've got everything but the noodles in my pantry or freezer. This is going on the list for while SueF is out of town next week. I wonder if I can get a 1/3lb batch of noodles at the local stores -- I'm unlikely to go through a pound in a week. I could use spaghetti....
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #7 - June 21st, 2018, 7:42 am
    Post #7 - June 21st, 2018, 7:42 am Post #7 - June 21st, 2018, 7:42 am
    JoelF wrote:I'm unlikely to go through a pound in a week. I could use spaghetti....

    Fresh Chinese noodles are inexpensive, make pan fried noodle with the extra. They freeze ok (before cooking).

    If you do use spaghetti Serious Eats has a trick to give angel hair more bite/spring, add baking soda to the boiling water. -----> Serious Eats Link

    I have not tried this, I typically find use for extra Chinese noodle, and don't feel all that guilty if I toss .18c worth of leftover noodle if I don't make pan fried noodle as a dinner starch, or side for over easy eggs.

    How about a ramen burger with the leftover noodle. ----->Link

    Please post how it goes, I'd love to get some feedback on the recipe.
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  • Post #8 - June 21st, 2018, 7:46 am
    Post #8 - June 21st, 2018, 7:46 am Post #8 - June 21st, 2018, 7:46 am
    Delicious looking pictures. This reminds me very much of something my Taiwanese mom used to make: sesame pork noodles. Basically, you build the sesame and chili sauce in the bowl with the hot noodle water as you have done here. The difference is in the meat sauce; instead of a spicy Szechuan ground beef, it's a savory Taiwanese braised meat sauce made with pork belly, ground pork, shallots and soy sauce (https://thewoksoflife.com/2015/06/lu-ro ... -rice-bowl)

    I'll be sure to try out this Szechuan version as well.
  • Post #9 - June 21st, 2018, 3:58 pm
    Post #9 - June 21st, 2018, 3:58 pm Post #9 - June 21st, 2018, 3:58 pm
    And now I'm thinking about making a variation on Dan Dan with chopped smoked brisket. Certainly couldn't be bad.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #10 - June 27th, 2018, 5:17 pm
    Post #10 - June 27th, 2018, 5:17 pm Post #10 - June 27th, 2018, 5:17 pm
    Awesome dish. Ultimate weeknight dinner: with the pepper mix pre-made, ground beef, noodles (even spaghetti), and a bunch of Chinese pantry staples, you've got dinner on the table in minutes. The water/vinegar/oils/tahini mixture makes a perfectly viscous coating (I shudder to look at the fat grams -- but we shouldn't worry about that, the science is bunk, just worry about caloric intake).

    One suggestion for the recipe: The first step should say "Ventilate, toast, and grind" -- the guys from the Geneva Convention were by. I used Potrero Trading Post sun-dried XX-Hot crushed chiles, my current favorite.

    Spicier? Maybe, but I'm still sweating. I'm not sure the funkiness of the doban jan is needed. I didn't have a chile oil, I have a jar of fried chiles in oil, and went a little light on that not being certain how it would work. Pic on my Bachelor Chow thread.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #11 - June 28th, 2018, 4:44 am
    Post #11 - June 28th, 2018, 4:44 am Post #11 - June 28th, 2018, 4:44 am
    JoelF wrote:Awesome dish.

    Very nice, thanks for posting!

    Happy you liked the dish, great pics on your Bachelor Chow thread. Love the deli container marked MaLa!

    JoelF wrote:Potrero Trading Post sun-dried XX-Hot crushed chiles, my current favorite.

    Just looked these up, think I'll order a couple of types later in the day.

    JoelF wrote:Spicier? Maybe, but I'm still sweating.
    I consider dinner a win win when beads of perspiration form on my forehead. :)
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  • Post #12 - June 28th, 2018, 5:53 am
    Post #12 - June 28th, 2018, 5:53 am Post #12 - June 28th, 2018, 5:53 am
    G Wiv wrote:
    JoelF wrote:Spicier? Maybe, but I'm still sweating.
    I consider dinner a win win when beads of perspiration form on my forehead. :)

    In hindsight, I think it was the house more than the chiles -- I turned the AC back on shortly afterward.

    I'm not sure how much the preserved veg adds: A little crunch, but would other finely chopped veg serve as well? It's hardly a difficult ingredient, I'm fine including it. I'll probably chop up some peanuts for the leftovers, if for no other reason than it's a little small.

    I thought about browning up a bunch of ground beef to make this dish whenever I want... but it's such a simple dish, it's barely a time saver to pre-cook the beef. I can see a freezer case with "Gway-Lo Brand Dan Dan Noodles" with pouches of meat, sauce and fresh noodles, just add fresh scallions.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #13 - June 28th, 2018, 6:29 am
    Post #13 - June 28th, 2018, 6:29 am Post #13 - June 28th, 2018, 6:29 am
    JoelF wrote:I'm not sure how much the preserved veg adds: A little crunch, but would other finely chopped veg serve as well? It's hardly a difficult ingredient, I'm fine including it.
    I like the slightly salty mildly fermented pop and, as you mention, its an easy ingredient to find long as one has access to a Chinese grocery.

    JoelF wrote:I'll probably chop up some peanuts for the leftovers, if for no other reason than it's a little small.

    I often add chopped peanuts, see latest Dan Dan pics just above. Once again, there is no absolute Dan Dan recipe, variations abound most of which are tasty. Its not like Fuchsia Dunlop is going to come to your house and scold you. (though that would be amazing!)
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  • Post #14 - June 28th, 2018, 8:25 am
    Post #14 - June 28th, 2018, 8:25 am Post #14 - June 28th, 2018, 8:25 am
    G Wiv wrote:Once again, there is no absolute Dan Dan recipe, variations abound most of which are tasty. Its not like Fuchsia Dunlop is going to come to your house and scold you. (though that would be amazing!)

    Probably the biggest split is whether or not the sauce is creamy: Katy's version (where I first had it other than Japanese tantan mien) is almost brothy. I just surveyed a number of other recipes online, and the majority (but not all) are a creamier sauce, using either thinned out Chinese sesame paste (harder to find and less smooth than tahini), or peanut butter (from both Alton Brown, and Steven Raichlen via NYT). Some add greens such as bok choy.

    I get the feeling, though, that Dan Dan noodles are what Plato is eating in his cave every time someone orders sesame noodles at Noodles & Co.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #15 - June 28th, 2018, 8:40 am
    Post #15 - June 28th, 2018, 8:40 am Post #15 - June 28th, 2018, 8:40 am
    JoelF wrote:I get the feeling, though, that Dan Dan noodles are what Plato is eating in his cave every time someone orders sesame noodles at Noodles & Co.

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  • Post #16 - July 6th, 2018, 7:53 pm
    Post #16 - July 6th, 2018, 7:53 pm Post #16 - July 6th, 2018, 7:53 pm
    DanDanLTH1.jpg Dan Dan Noodle = dinner
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  • Post #17 - August 4th, 2018, 1:41 pm
    Post #17 - August 4th, 2018, 1:41 pm Post #17 - August 4th, 2018, 1:41 pm
    Adventures in Dan Dan noodles continue, slight variation with Thai style pickled peppers instead of preserved veg & soft egg. Tasty though the pickled peppers did not add as much heat as expected. And yes, those are a few French Breakfast radishes, they were on the counter so Why Not?

    DanDanPPPost1.jpg Dan Dan Noodle w/pickled Thai peppers soft egg and French breakfast radish.
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  • Post #18 - September 18th, 2018, 7:18 pm
    Post #18 - September 18th, 2018, 7:18 pm Post #18 - September 18th, 2018, 7:18 pm
    G Wiv wrote:How about a ramen burger with the leftover noodle.

    Thought I'd post this in the Dan Dan thread, Ramen Burgers! Easy to make especially if on has a ring-mold or two.

    RamenBurger2.jpg Ramen Burgers

    RamenBurger3.jpg Ramen Burger
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  • Post #19 - June 25th, 2019, 9:09 pm
    Post #19 - June 25th, 2019, 9:09 pm Post #19 - June 25th, 2019, 9:09 pm
    Made Dan Dan Salad for dinner, using a 1/3 batch of the sauce. I probably should have added some fresh garlic and ginger as would be in the meat mixture, but it was pretty good as is.
    I tossed the sauce (added water to make it the consistency of a dressing) with a mix of shredded cabbage and fresh spinach. I then topped it with (frozen, pre cooked) shrimp, cucumber, mini sweet pepper and carrots julienned, chives from my garden, peanuts, and the peppercorn/chile flake powder.

    I think this would make a great slaw, skipping the cucumber, shrimp and spinach.

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    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #20 - December 28th, 2019, 6:11 pm
    Post #20 - December 28th, 2019, 6:11 pm Post #20 - December 28th, 2019, 6:11 pm
    Munchies Dan Dan Noodle recipe video.

    Watching Simone Tong of Little Tong Noodle Shop in NYC make Mala Dan Dan made me both smile and salivate. She is charming and, more importantly, her take looks delicious and there are a few accents used I never thought of that look fantastic.

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  • Post #21 - July 31st, 2020, 9:31 am
    Post #21 - July 31st, 2020, 9:31 am Post #21 - July 31st, 2020, 9:31 am
    Been a while since I've made Dan Dan Noodle, tonight was a twist or two starting with sauteed cabbage and dill pickle instead of Chinese preserved veg. Worked astonishingly well though, as mentioned, there seems to be no canonical Dan Dan, variations abound.

    No measurements, outline of ingredients, order of use and basic method. Turned out well, both the bride and I finished our somewhat substantial bowls.

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    Dan Dan Noodle with cabbage and dill pickle
    7.30.20

    Meat mince:
    Szechuan peppercorn/white pepper (whole) 2/1
    Toast in dry wok, cool, grind.
    Shallot, garlic, ginger. Mince, saute in peanut oil
    Szechuan/white pepper mix, red pepper flakes, salt, white part scallion, cabbage.
    Saute
    Ground beef or pork, I used beef
    Stir fry, break up
    Soy sauce, sesame oil, red pepper flakes, pepper mix, salt, black pepper, pinch of sugar
    Stir Fry
    Diced dill pickle
    Saute
    Small amount of stock
    Check for spice and salt
    Reserve to bowl

    Sauce:
    Tahini
    black vinegar
    soy sauce
    sesame oil
    soup stock
    chili oil
    chili flake
    sugar
    salt
    Szechuan/white pepper mix
    Mix well

    Assemble:
    Pan toast peanuts with pepper mix, chili flake, oil, salt, black pepper
    Cool, crush

    Line bowl with sauce mix
    Top with cooked noodles
    Top with meat mixture
    Top with peanuts
    Top with scallions
    Dust with Szechuan/White pepper mix

    Eat, enjoy, repeat
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  • Post #22 - July 31st, 2020, 1:38 pm
    Post #22 - July 31st, 2020, 1:38 pm Post #22 - July 31st, 2020, 1:38 pm
    Next day leftovers. Pan fried noodle, meat mince mixture stir fried with cabbage, finished with cornstarch slurry. Spoon or two chili oil, Lunch.

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  • Post #23 - July 31st, 2020, 3:55 pm
    Post #23 - July 31st, 2020, 3:55 pm Post #23 - July 31st, 2020, 3:55 pm
    G Wiv wrote:Next day leftovers. Pan fried noodle, meat mince mixture stir fried with cabbage, finished with cornstarch slurry. Spoon or two chili oil, Lunch.

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    Tsk, tsk. Haven't you learned anything from Mr. Suburban? You must identify the knife in the picture! :P
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  • Post #24 - July 31st, 2020, 4:47 pm
    Post #24 - July 31st, 2020, 4:47 pm Post #24 - July 31st, 2020, 4:47 pm
    Xexo wrote:Tsk, tsk. Haven't you learned anything from Mr. Suburban? You must identify the knife in the picture! :P

    I've learned much from Mr. S, from the finer points of mezcal to good humor, to the benefits of the Keto diet. I've also learned that I will never take as good of pictures as Ronnie, something I've learned to live with. :)

    Far as pictured nakiri, I have no clue of provenance. I've owned it at least 20-years, its slicey as a laser though a frozen penguin, carbon steel and made in Japan.

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  • Post #25 - July 31st, 2020, 4:57 pm
    Post #25 - July 31st, 2020, 4:57 pm Post #25 - July 31st, 2020, 4:57 pm
    G Wiv wrote:
    Xexo wrote:Tsk, tsk. Haven't you learned anything from Mr. Suburban? You must identify the knife in the picture! :P

    I've learned much from Mr. S, from the finer points of mescal to good humor, to the benefits of the Keto diet. I've also learned that I will never take as good of pictures as Ronnie, something I've learned to live with. :)

    Far as pictured nakiri, I have no clue of provenance. I've owned it at least 20-years, its slicey as a laser though a frozen penguin, carbon steel and made in Japan.

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    I bet Mr. Suburban is going to take those pictures to the CKTG forum to get it identified now. As an aside, your pictures look great, so don't sell yourself short.
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  • Post #26 - March 26th, 2022, 3:24 pm
    Post #26 - March 26th, 2022, 3:24 pm Post #26 - March 26th, 2022, 3:24 pm
    I'm making Dune Dune Noodles for an Oscar Party tomorrow. My usual source for preserved veg is Joong Boo, but they don't seem to carry the foil packets anymore.

    Instead I bought a pouch of pickled mustard greens. I'll let you know how it comes out.

    And I still forgot to turn on the fan before I started toasting chiles. Nearly killed SueF, even gave me a coughing fit.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #27 - March 26th, 2022, 5:01 pm
    Post #27 - March 26th, 2022, 5:01 pm Post #27 - March 26th, 2022, 5:01 pm
    Next time, readily available online at Amazon.
  • Post #28 - March 28th, 2022, 8:40 am
    Post #28 - March 28th, 2022, 8:40 am Post #28 - March 28th, 2022, 8:40 am
    Dune-Dune noodles were a hit at the Oscar party last night (one of my friends overdid it with the ma-la powder and couldn't finish). It pretty much wiped out the last of my chile oil, time to make a new batch.

    Notes:
    1) I wanted something a little more sandworm-like and bought a package of kalguksoo noodles which are thicker than the typical ramen-style noodles. They were much too starchy and sticky, probably not alkaline. I won't make that mistake again.
    2) The pickled mustard greens were OK. What I hadn't noticed when I bought them is that like a lot of Asian pickled veg, they have artificial sweeteners (aspartame and saccharine). I just don't like using artificial flavorings in general, I wouldn't buy this again because of that.
    3) I used the 6/18 version of the recipe (top of the thread)
    4) I took it to the party in 5 containers: noodles, beef mixture, scallions, sauce/starch water, ma-la powder. That worked pretty well, we reheated the sauce on the stove and ladled it on.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #29 - August 15th, 2023, 9:07 pm
    Post #29 - August 15th, 2023, 9:07 pm Post #29 - August 15th, 2023, 9:07 pm
    Variation number, uh, let's say 643:
    I had a leftover teriyaki grilled chicken thigh in the freezer, minced that up with the garlic, ginger, ma-la mix, and some minced homemade mustard green kimchi (rinsed).
    I used dark soy sauce that was on the counter, but otherwise the sauce was just like above,
    And the garnish included chopped peanuts, and blanched kale (also from the garden).
    Beautiful evening to eat at the picnic table on the porch, although it looks like Commander Riker doesn't approve.
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