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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:40 pm 
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Forest Park sweets-maker Ferrara Pan Candy Co. will merge with Minnesota-based Farley's & Sathers Candy Co., the companies announced Wednesday. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... 0072.story

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:14 am 
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Forest Park sweets-maker Ferrara Pan Candy Co. will merge with Minnesota-based Farley's & Sathers Candy Co., the companies announced Wednesday. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... 0072.story


Well, at least it looks as if the Ferraras will still be involved. One hopes they'll still be making candy here.

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The combined company will be named Ferrara Candy Co. Inc., retaining the century-old Ferrara name. It will be led by Salvatore Ferrara II, chairman and CEO of Ferrara Pan....

The company declined to comment beyond the press release and did not immediately respond to questions regarding plans for the Forrest Park facility or the effect on local jobs.

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:53 am 
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God forbid Forest Park and Oak Park (when the wind is blowing northeast) no longer smell like Atomic Fireballs and Lemon Heads (depending on the day of the week).


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:36 am 
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My wife and I live less than a mile from Ferrara pan. Our favorite "neighborhood smells" are when they make the cherryheads or grapeheads.

Sure beats the hell out of when we lived in Canaryville and only had a rendered pork fat smell to look forward to when we got home. :lol:

Hopefully they remain in the area.


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:35 am 
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Decades ago, I used to live about 4 blocks from FP on the top floor of a building. Much of the time, I was in the direct path of the effluent from FP's stacks. If I left my windows open on Fireball day, it was brutal. I think Cherry day was my favorite, also. Back then they called them Cherry Chans with a caricature of a Chinese man on the box complete with coolie hat and a Fu Man Chu moustache (it was totally offensive). Funny how at the time, it was still OK to stereotype Asians, but not other minorities. I certainly understand why they changed the name of that one, but why change Alexander the Grape?


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:56 am 
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Decades ago, I used to live about 4 blocks from FP on the top floor of a building. Much of the time, I was in the direct path of the effluent from FP's stacks. If I left my windows open on Fireball day, it was brutal. I think Cherry day was my favorite, also. Back then they called them Cherry Chans with a caricature of a Chinese man on the box complete with coolie hat and a Fu Man Chu moustache (it was totally offensive). Funny how at the time, it was still OK to stereotype Asians, but not other minorities. I certainly understand why they changed the name of that one, but why change Alexander the Grape?


I believe it was Cherry Clan, right?

You may be thinking of Charlie Chan, another stereotype played to perfection on screen by Swedish Warner Oland (the guy was versatile).

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d4v3 wrote:
Decades ago, I used to live about 4 blocks from FP on the top floor of a building. Much of the time, I was in the direct path of the effluent from FP's stacks. If I left my windows open on Fireball day, it was brutal. I think Cherry day was my favorite, also. Back then they called them Cherry Chans with a caricature of a Chinese man on the box complete with coolie hat and a Fu Man Chu moustache (it was totally offensive). Funny how at the time, it was still OK to stereotype Asians, but not other minorities. I certainly understand why they changed the name of that one, but why change Alexander the Grape?


I believe it was Cherry Clan, right?

You may be thinking of Charlie Chan, another stereotype played to perfection on screen by Swedish Warner Oland (the guy was versatile).

No, I am pretty sure it was Cherry Chan playing on the name Charlie Chan with a stereotyped mispronunciation of "Charlie" . I was wrong about the Coolie hat. It was Charlie Chan's bowler hat.

Here is a link to a picture of the box: http://www.candywrappermuseum.com/cherrychan.html
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Apparently Cherry Chan was replaced with Cherry Clans which was not much more PC, since they kept the Chinese connection, and this time added the coolie hats.
http://www.candywrappermuseum.com/cherryclanbox.html


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d4v3 wrote:
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d4v3 wrote:
Decades ago, I used to live about 4 blocks from FP on the top floor of a building. Much of the time, I was in the direct path of the effluent from FP's stacks. If I left my windows open on Fireball day, it was brutal. I think Cherry day was my favorite, also. Back then they called them Cherry Chans with a caricature of a Chinese man on the box complete with coolie hat and a Fu Man Chu moustache (it was totally offensive). Funny how at the time, it was still OK to stereotype Asians, but not other minorities. I certainly understand why they changed the name of that one, but why change Alexander the Grape?


I believe it was Cherry Clan, right?

You may be thinking of Charlie Chan, another stereotype played to perfection on screen by Swedish Warner Oland (the guy was versatile).

No, I am pretty sure it was Cherry Chan playing on the name Charlie Chan with a stereotyped mispronunciation of "Charlie"

Here is a link to a picture of the box: http://www.candywrappermuseum.com/cherrychan.html
gotta love the intertubes, you can find anything


What do you know: they had both Cherry Chan AND Cherry Clan.

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Yeah I just discovered that and edited my previous post. Funny they changed it to Cherry Clans, which uses even more offensive imagery, but made no sense from a "pun" perpective. Image
According to the site (which is fantastic BTW), it was not the racist overtones that made them change the name, but a cease and desist order from Warner Oland's family.

BTW notice the package lost 5 grams in the transition?


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Dave, I checked out your first link and scratched my head at " check out this amazing box of Candy Crafters' "Coolies" that museum guest Debby Wapner scanned for me. I don't normally post scans, but I thought this box was great. Debby says the copyright date is 1943. Definitely not a banner year for political correctness, especially when it came to Asians."

At the risk of igniting a firestorm of debate, I am not sure I see the "racist" elements in this box. I mean, "coolies" were sad members of Asian society, considered to be a little below the lowest rung on the social ladder, but representing them on a box seems innocent enough.

Writing about this, I just realized why, in the early 60s, an American Indian was pictured on a box of red pistachios. As Tosh might ask, "Is it racist?" It might be.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:40 pm 
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Hey, the Cleveland Indians still use "Chief Wahoo" as their logo. That has to be the most offensive portrayal of American Indians ever.
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Just for old times sake:
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I encourage everybody to check out the Candy Wrapper Museum
A really fun site, and a great way to waste time. Great discovery.


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The worst for me, growing up 3/4 mile from Ferrara Pan, was boston baked bean day. Ugh.

Favorite flavors were alexander the grape and johnny apple treats.

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I actually liked (and still like) Lemonheads.

Odd anti-drug campaign in local schools during the 1990s, supported by Ferrari Pan, was something like "Don't be a Lemonhead. Don't do drugs." Seemed insane to me, associating your product with the very thing you don't want people to like.

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David Hammond wrote:
I actually liked (and still like) Lemonheads.

Odd anti-drug campaign in local schools during the 1990s, supported by Ferrari Pan, was something like "Don't be a Lemonhead. Don't do drugs." Seemed insane to me, associating your product with the very thing you don't want people to like.

I think FP was well aware that their candy was popular among the red-eyed crowd. The boxes were funny (in a weird way), and lemonheads were a great remedy for cotton mouth. Plus it was really cheap, and was always located right next to the rolling papers at your local gas station. On the inner flaps they started putting "say nope to dope".

Remember "Screamin Yellow Zonkers" with the really weird humor on the boxes? You had to be under the influence to "get it". If that marketing was not geared towards the munchie crowd, I don't know what was. Plus it was manufactured in Villa Park by Sandoz Pharmaceutical, the only legal manufacturer of LSD. I'l bet their focus groups were a trip.


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Remember "Screamin Yellow Zonkers" with the really weird humor on the boxes? You had to be under the influence to "get it". If that marketing was not geared towards the munchie crowd, I don't know what was. Plus it was manufactured in Villa Park by Sandoz Pharmaceutical, the only legal manufacturer of LSD. I'l bet their focus groups were a trip.


That is hilarious. SYZs (no longer produced) definitely had that rep, and that they're connected to Sandoz is close to unbelievable (I did google to confirm you weren't just fooling; it's true).

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David Hammond wrote:
SYZs (no longer produced) [. . .]

SYZs were discontinued several years ago but apparently are available as of May 15 for a limited time at Walgreens.


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Per Candy & Snack Today.com . . .

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The new Ferrara Candy Co., Inc. expects to close three Farley’s & Sathers Candy Co., Inc. operations within a year as a result of the latter’s merger with Ferrara Pan Candy Co., Inc., according to a press release from the company

Ferrara Closing Three Operations

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David Hammond wrote:
What do you know: they had both Cherry Chan AND Cherry Clan.

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I thought maybe you guys were thinking of this, since we got on the subject of racist cherries:
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