DClose wrote:Has anything been cited in city limits so far?
Vitesse98 wrote:The fact that they moved the number to the back indicates to me that Elijah Craig 12 as we know it will not be around for long. Either that or they will pump up the price to premium.
bobbywal wrote:FWIW, the proprietors of these stores have always been pretty honest about the disbursement of these rarities. I think if you really want to get one these bottles you have to make nice with your local, non-Binny's shops who will be good for a couple of bottles.
ronnie_suburban wrote:bobbywal wrote:FWIW, the proprietors of these stores have always been pretty honest about the disbursement of these rarities. I think if you really want to get one these bottles you have to make nice with your local, non-Binny's shops who will be good for a couple of bottles.
When I was recently in Flushing, NY a local shop there had a bottle of 15-year VW on the shelf (behind the counter) for a mere $799.
I'm sure it'll sell at some point but that was not exactly a friendly price.
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bobbywal wrote:How much was Binny's charging for the lineup?
mbh wrote:I often look for hard to find bourbons in small town liquor stores when I travel so when I was in Cambria CA last week I stopped into a local store. They had 15 year Pappy Van Winkle for $899 a bottle and the 12 year old for $499, that's either insanity, good marketing or both.
Kman wrote:mbh wrote:I often look for hard to find bourbons in small town liquor stores when I travel so when I was in Cambria CA last week I stopped into a local store. They had 15 year Pappy Van Winkle for $899 a bottle and the 12 year old for $499, that's either insanity, good marketing or both.
Normally I'd just ask if the person labeling the stock had the decimal misplaced. If they actually get buyers at those prices the mailing list of those people is pure gold.
mbh wrote:I often look for hard to find bourbons in small town liquor stores when I travel so when I was in Cambria CA last week I stopped into a local store. They had 15 year Pappy Van Winkle for $899 a bottle and the 12 year old for $499, that's either insanity, good marketing or both.
Coogles wrote:mbh wrote:I often look for hard to find bourbons in small town liquor stores when I travel so when I was in Cambria CA last week I stopped into a local store. They had 15 year Pappy Van Winkle for $899 a bottle and the 12 year old for $499, that's either insanity, good marketing or both.
Good marketing along with making it rare. They take the bourbon from the barrels that didn't make the cut for Pappy and sell it under the "Weller" brand, you can get that for a reasonable price and it's almost as good.
I often look for hard to find bourbons in small town liquor stores when I travel so when I was in Cambria CA last week I stopped into a local store. They had 15 year Pappy Van Winkle for $899 a bottle and the 12 year old for $499, that's either insanity, good marketing or both.
champs2005 wrote:That has to be illegal. Its not an auction or craigslist sale. Hes running a retail store.
Also if his distributor found out about that he would probably be dropped from getting it ever again.
ronnie_suburban wrote:This is (now) Buffalo Trace juice from which Van Winkle chooses select barrels for their labels. The process is continuous and quite involved from the 10-year all the way up through the 23. I've heard Julian describe the process and have also read some interviews in which he describes it. Some of the unchosen stock ends up being bottled as Weller. Some of it makes it into other BT products.
I remember hearing Julian (at some event) lament the fact that they cannot put out any more than they do. He said he wished they could and that they were increasing output slightly. From what I remember him saying, I don't think they do any marketing at all. It's reached legendary status in a very organic way but there is also some marketplace hype that drives demand. It's a very recognizable name so some brand-focused fanatics (some, who don't do their homework) go after it in a way that doesn't always line up with reality. But hey, if the money's flying around out there, someone will find a way to capture it. The prices mbh describes above are not indicative of anything other than this. It's opportunism, pure and simple. Standard retail pricing for the VW products is nowhere near those levels, though availability at that level is extremely limited.
KevinM wrote:Maybe I just keep getting unlucky but I haven't been able to find Weller at any liquor stores for the last 2 years. A real bummer.