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 Post subject: Klas: Enjoy yourself! It May Be Later Than You Think [Czech]
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:30 pm 
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“Enjoy your dinner and cocktails in the largest Czechoslovakian restaurant in the U.S.A.!”

I’ve written about Klas on several boards, and I just really dig the place.

VI recently recounted a trip there in an earlier thread I started about the restaurant:
http://lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3333&highlight=klas

Amata has described “some” of the food as being very good:
http://lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2062&highlight=klas

El Panzone has extolled the virtues of Klas’ Beef simmered with Pilsner Beer until tender, served in a Dark Rich Paprika Gravy for 9.95!
http://lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2623&highlight=klas

And the august ReneG has written about it on a number of occasions, both here and on Chowhound.

Check out Klas’ site for a sense of their old school attitude: http://www.klasrestaurant.com/

I enjoy their Koprava (boiled beef) and Svickova (pickled beef), but I must admit, no one is going to say that Klas has the best damn Eastern European food in the city or perhaps even the neighborhood. Let’s put it this way, I have enjoyed myself every time I’ve gone there. I don’t think I could find another place that provides the quality (and quantity) of food for the price. It is in every sense a neighborhood joint (full of locals, in the bar and dining room), and it drips with character from its hand-carved wooden chandeliers to its remarkable “theme” rooms.

Earlier this year, I recommended to a long lost Bohemian Uncle of mine (no blood) that he have dinner there and he was in heaven – he’s even pretty much decided to rejoin the family. I’m not making this up.

Frequented by the likes Al Capone and George Bush, Klas has a lot of history, and no small amount of magic. If you go there, I'd be very surprised if you didn't leave satisfied.

Fun for the whole family...and don't forget to stop by the brothel room!!

It’s my nomination. Can I get a witness?

Klas Restaurant
5734 W Cermak Rd
Cicero IL
708-652-0795
Tue-Thu 11-830, Fri 11-9, Sat 11-930, Sun 11-8

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 Post subject: Re: Klas: Enjoy yourself! It May Be Later Than You Think
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David Hammond wrote:
It’s my nomination. Can I get a witness?



Witness! :D

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David:

We (Amata Lucantonius egoque) have made the trek out to Klas a couple of times and really enjoyed both visits. As you and Rob and others have said, the food is not life-altering nor even the best of its general Mitteleuropa genre available in Chicagoland but it is good and satisfying (I agree with Rob that the potato pancakes, at least when we've had them, were really quite good). Meat with lots of starch and gravy, all washed down with lots of beer (I'm quite fond of the Radogast) for very decent prices, Klas is an institution that I very much hope stays alive.

And yes, the curios and architecture and history all add greatly to the experience.

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P.S. Any further word on how they are doing with regard to business? There have been so many grim reports... On the two occasions we were there, they were fairly busy on one and fairly dead on the other, if memory serves...

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 Post subject: Klas endures
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Any further word on how they are doing with regard to business? There have been so many grim reports... On the two occasions we were there, they were fairly busy on one and fairly dead on the other, if memory serves...


I have heard nothing specific, but one always gets the feeling that Klas is on the verge of becoming extinct (could their motto have something to do with that feeling?). When we first moved to the area some 20 years ago, there were several other neighborhood restaurants of similar ilk, including Old Prague (which had an incredible illuminated three-dimensional diorama of the old city on one wall). They're all gone; Klas endures.

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Hey David,

didn't you once attribute some special luck in betting on the Kentucky Derby to eating at Klas? Did you try that this year?

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David Hammond wrote:
Antonius wrote:
Any further word on how they are doing with regard to business? There have been so many grim reports... On the two occasions we were there, they were fairly busy on one and fairly dead on the other, if memory serves...


I have heard nothing specific, but one always gets the feeling that Klas is on the verge of becoming extinct (could their motto have something to do with that feeling?). When we first moved to the area some 20 years ago, there were several other neighborhood restaurants of similar ilk, including Old Prague (which had an incredible illuminated three-dimensional diorama of the old city on one wall). They're all gone; Klas endures.

Hammond


Klas is under relatively new ownership, and I believe the new owners are more recent immigrants from Czech Republic--as an aside, I learned the other night that the capital of the Czech Republic is Praha, and no one has any idea why it is pronounced Prague in English (I mean none of the Czech speakers present.) When we went on Friday, the bar had a few Czech speakers, but the crowd was pretty much remants. Since the place is so big, I think the crowds can be deceptive. What might look like a full house at some places, looks kinda vacant at Klas.

The problem for Klas, as I see, is that the new young crowd goes to Operetta, the old timers are mostly gone from Cicero-Berwyn, and "regular" people, as has been discussed before, just do not think of eating Bohemian food when going out (or if they do, they just think its some kinda diner food.)

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Amata wrote:
didn't you once attribute some special luck in betting on the Kentucky Derby to eating at Klas? Did you try that this year?


No we didn't! That must be why we put our money on the wrong long shot! If Klas is still around next year, we'll have to reincorporate it into our ritual.

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Ahoj, Praha!

à notre très cher collègue et 'baptême', Anton Antonovich

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[A]s an aside, I learned the other night that the capital of the Czech Republic is Praha, and no one has any idea why it is pronounced Prague in English (I mean none of the Czech speakers present.)


The sound represented by <h> in Czech is for the most part not the sound generally represented by <h> in English (as in, e.g., 'happy'). The Czech sound in question generally tends to have more friction than English <h->; in simple terms it resembles somewhat in 'raspiness' the <ch> in German Bach or Scots loch (though the Czech sound is not so raspy as the Scots one). In addition, in most positions Czech <h> is a voiced consonant, that is, during its production the vocal chords vibrate. Consequently, the sound of Czech <h> very closely resembles the sound indicated by Dutch <g> in the pronunciation of standard Dutch current in Belgium (and to an increasingly limited degree in adjacent portions of the south of the Netherlands). The sound is usually described as being a voiced velar fricative. It stands thus in a paradigmatic relationship with the sound represented by the spelling <ch>, which is a voiceless velar fricative. Note, however, that when Czech <h> occurs in word final position or as the second element in the cluster <sh> (e.g., in na shledanou 'see you later!'), it loses its voicing and is pronounced in the same manner as Czech <ch>; thus, duh and duch are pronounced in precisely the same manner.

The Czech <h> is the reflex of Indo-Euopean *g when not subject to palatalisation. In Czech, Slovak and Sorbian, Balto-Slavic or Proto-Slavic *g was subject to lenition and in intervocalic position thereby became a fricative (parallel developments are found dialectally elsewhere in Slavic). E.g., *bagus 'God' > Russian bog, Polish bóg (with a stop) but Czech buºh (<u> with superscripted <o>), Sorbian bóh with a fricative which was voiced until the vowel of the final syllable was lost. Still in intervocalic position and thus still the voiced velar fricative is the <h> in Czech noha, Sorbian noha vs. Russian nogá, Polish noga, Serbo-croatian nòga, all from Proto-Slavic *noga. Similarly in intervocalic position and thus a voiced velar fricative is the Czech <h> in the word ultimately in question here: Praha.

The name of the city Prague, Czech Praha, was most likely borrowed from the Slavic dialect of Bohemia (what we later know as Czech) into the High German of neighbouring central and southern Germany in the Carolingian period (late 8th to 9th century A.D.), perhaps in the course of Charlemagne's campaigns to pacify and conquer the eastern borders of his empire, if not a little earlier, as a result of more casual intercourse between Bavarians and Bohemians. Textual references to the Bohemians and neighbouring Slavic groups are found already in the Carolingian Annals of Saint Bertin and Annals of Fulda. I do not believe Prague itself is mentioned in those texts but I know it is mentioned by Ibrahim Ibn Ja9qub in the 10th century as being a major town and commercial centre in the region.

Since High German (in contrast to Low German, Dutch and the English of that time) did not have a voiced velar fricative, a sound substitution of the nearest (acoustically and articulatorily) consonant in High German was necessary when the toponym Praha was borrowed, hence, it was likely borrowed as *Praga or Prage; subsequent loss of the unstressed final vowel would yield <Prag>, pronounced in High German with -k as a result of final devoicing. English <Prague> was surely borrowed not directly from Czech but rather via German (though possibly with other intermediaries) and retains the voiced velar stop imposed by High German phonology, either directly or as a matter of spelling pronunciation.

Voilà, c'est tout simple.

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Antonius wrote:
Voilà, c'est tout simple.

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I knew it would be :D

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Man, you guys sure know how to muck up a nomination thread :cry: .

Does this mean I have to clear my throat (more or less) each time I say Prague (Praachaaa), go to Klas, and eat Czech food?

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Man, you guys sure know how to muck up a nomination thread :cry: .


FWIW, I love these "digressions," which are in a real sense enrichments.

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 Post subject: Re: Klas: Enjoy yourself! It May Be Later Than You Think [Czech]
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This restaurant is currently up for GNR renewal. Please post your comments below.

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As a blast from the past, Klas is definitely a GNR. I just wish I was around in the days when the smaller rooms upstairs were so popular ...

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Still turning out GNR-level food and atmosphere, and I really hope it's not that much later than we think. I've commented recently in the main thread several times on good meals. I just wish I didn't have to provide all of the fellow diners on a particular night.


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Although I have only made one visit right before X-mas I believe, I am still thinking about the dumplings, beef ghoulash, and their gravy. I just worry because they were pretty empty on the night we were there for an early dinner. I just hope it was the snow that was keeping the customers away, and not the economy. It would be a shame to lose a place like Klas.

Klas is a solid GNR in my eyes, and a place i hope to return to while the weather is still cold for some of their starch rich comfort food.

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I've been going to Klas since the mid-80's, and I have detected no discernable changes in the place, the service or the food -- actually, I think the salad bar may have gotten a little smaller, but when you can get soup, salad, bread (!!) entree, coffee and dessert for $14 or so, it's not suprising that they're trying to save a few pennies here and there...and for that, they are forgiven.

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More on Klas here and here.

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