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  • Post #121 - July 12th, 2011, 3:43 pm
    Post #121 - July 12th, 2011, 3:43 pm Post #121 - July 12th, 2011, 3:43 pm
    It's go time.
  • Post #122 - July 12th, 2011, 3:45 pm
    Post #122 - July 12th, 2011, 3:45 pm Post #122 - July 12th, 2011, 3:45 pm
    Phew. Got a two top for the day I wanted. Glad to be done with all of that, a bit nerve-wracking.
    "Baseball is like church. Many attend. Few understand." Leo Durocher
  • Post #123 - July 12th, 2011, 4:09 pm
    Post #123 - July 12th, 2011, 4:09 pm Post #123 - July 12th, 2011, 4:09 pm
    Ursiform wrote:Phew. Got a two top for the day I wanted. Glad to be done with all of that, a bit nerve-wracking.


    I think walking on coals might be less of an ordeal.
  • Post #124 - July 12th, 2011, 4:16 pm
    Post #124 - July 12th, 2011, 4:16 pm Post #124 - July 12th, 2011, 4:16 pm
    aschie30 wrote:I think walking on coals might be less of an ordeal.


    No arguments here, but once I was in, no problems at all. It's the wait that is nightmarish.
    "Baseball is like church. Many attend. Few understand." Leo Durocher
  • Post #125 - July 12th, 2011, 4:19 pm
    Post #125 - July 12th, 2011, 4:19 pm Post #125 - July 12th, 2011, 4:19 pm
    Ursiform wrote:
    aschie30 wrote:I think walking on coals might be less of an ordeal.


    No arguments here, but once I was in, no problems at all. It's the wait that is nightmarish.


    I was part of yesterday's refresh-hell, but today the calendar happened to be up when I hit the site without having checked facebook for the go-time. Got my desired date/time within minutes, oddly.

    I can't complain! I am sad to have missed Paris 1906, though.
  • Post #126 - July 12th, 2011, 4:23 pm
    Post #126 - July 12th, 2011, 4:23 pm Post #126 - July 12th, 2011, 4:23 pm
    I had more than a few errors... blank calendar, stuck on "please wait..." for 10 minutes, selecting a time and then nothing happening (not even a "that table is not available" message or kicking me to the next available slot like the system is supposed to) but I got something after about 30 minutes of wading through the bog.
  • Post #127 - July 12th, 2011, 4:27 pm
    Post #127 - July 12th, 2011, 4:27 pm Post #127 - July 12th, 2011, 4:27 pm
    TCK wrote:I had more than a few errors... blank calendar, stuck on "please wait..." for 10 minutes, selecting a time and then nothing happening (not even a "that table is not available" message or kicking me to the next available slot like the system is supposed to) but I got something after about 30 minutes of wading through the bog.


    This was my experience, though I finally ended up with something as well.
    "Ah, lamentably no, my gastronomic rapacity knows no satiety" - Homer J. Simpson
  • Post #128 - July 12th, 2011, 4:31 pm
    Post #128 - July 12th, 2011, 4:31 pm Post #128 - July 12th, 2011, 4:31 pm
    There are still plenty of tables available. It just takes patience to sit and wait it out. I got a table and am looking forward to going.
  • Post #129 - July 12th, 2011, 4:42 pm
    Post #129 - July 12th, 2011, 4:42 pm Post #129 - July 12th, 2011, 4:42 pm
    Well, it only took 6 tabs and about 1 billion refreshes but I got a 2 top in September.
    -Josh

    I've started blogging about the Stuff I Eat
  • Post #130 - July 12th, 2011, 4:57 pm
    Post #130 - July 12th, 2011, 4:57 pm Post #130 - July 12th, 2011, 4:57 pm
    My dining partner and I got our maximum number of tables (4 in total). Including the last hour of the last day of service. Will do comparison between the first day vs the last day.
  • Post #131 - July 12th, 2011, 5:26 pm
    Post #131 - July 12th, 2011, 5:26 pm Post #131 - July 12th, 2011, 5:26 pm
    Whatever you do, do not post on the facebook page that you will be dining at Next 5 times lest you be dragged out into the street and beaten by the proletariat.
  • Post #132 - July 12th, 2011, 5:31 pm
    Post #132 - July 12th, 2011, 5:31 pm Post #132 - July 12th, 2011, 5:31 pm
    TCK wrote:Whatever you do, do not post on the facebook page that you will be dining at Next 5 times lest you be dragged out into the street and beaten by the proletariat.


    Well, it's kind of silly to eat one same menu for 5 times, isn't it? Actually, I am giving 2 tickets to some friends :)
    Last edited by theskinnyduck on July 12th, 2011, 9:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
  • Post #133 - July 12th, 2011, 5:35 pm
    Post #133 - July 12th, 2011, 5:35 pm Post #133 - July 12th, 2011, 5:35 pm
    Almost got a table with my Iphone while goofing around at work. Probably would have worked with wifi rather than 3G.

    No biggie, I was just fucking around anyway. And now I have $350 more dollars to spend on tacos and beer next time I'm in Chicago (that is how this money thing works, right?). In other news, I hear hot dogs are really good with giardiniera. Will have to investigate...
    "By the fig, the olive..." Surat Al-Teen, Mecca 95:1"
  • Post #134 - July 12th, 2011, 7:16 pm
    Post #134 - July 12th, 2011, 7:16 pm Post #134 - July 12th, 2011, 7:16 pm
    I have a table to trade if anyone is willing & interested. I bought tickets for 2 on Friday, Aug. 26, at 6:15 pm. Unfortunately, the night doesn't work for me, so I'm looking to trade for a table for 2 on another night. I'm pretty flexible on dates.

    I only got the water service, since it's my understanding that beverage service can possibly be added later. But I'd happily entertain trades that include alcoholic or non-alcoholic pairings. (Obviously I'll pay any price difference.) I don't remember the exact price per person, but the total with tax & service was $235.76.

    FWIW, and I'm sure this isn't a new complaint, but once you select a date & time, it seemed as if there was no way to unselect a table. I accidentally clicked on a table that didn't work for me, so my only options were to:
    1. Wait 10 minutes 'til the reservation expired--and risk having no tickets available.
    2. Purchase nothing.
    3. Purchase tickets for the wrong date & hope that I could trade.

    Hope I made the right decision! Please PM me if you're interested.
  • Post #135 - July 12th, 2011, 9:19 pm
    Post #135 - July 12th, 2011, 9:19 pm Post #135 - July 12th, 2011, 9:19 pm
    chgoeditor wrote:I have a table to trade if anyone is willing & interested. I bought tickets for 2 on Friday, Aug. 26, at 6:15 pm. Unfortunately, the night doesn't work for me, so I'm looking to trade for a table for 2 on another night. I'm pretty flexible on dates.

    I only got the water service, since it's my understanding that beverage service can possibly be added later. But I'd happily entertain trades that include alcoholic or non-alcoholic pairings. (Obviously I'll pay any price difference.) I don't remember the exact price per person, but the total with tax & service was $235.76.

    FWIW, and I'm sure this isn't a new complaint, but once you select a date & time, it seemed as if there was no way to unselect a table. I accidentally clicked on a table that didn't work for me, so my only options were to:
    1. Wait 10 minutes 'til the reservation expired--and risk having no tickets available.
    2. Purchase nothing.
    3. Purchase tickets for the wrong date & hope that I could trade.

    Hope I made the right decision! Please PM me if you're interested.


    You probably made the smartest decision to just purchase tickets while you can, since you'll be able to trade them (Facebook is likely the best place to do this). But, to your question, I think at any point in the process you could simply search for tickets again and that would start the whole process over. I could be wrong about this, though.
  • Post #136 - July 12th, 2011, 10:38 pm
    Post #136 - July 12th, 2011, 10:38 pm Post #136 - July 12th, 2011, 10:38 pm
    This secondary market is a hassle.... I'm looking to trade a 4 top for this Thu at 6 pm ($85/pp) for any table on a better date for us. thx!
  • Post #137 - July 13th, 2011, 10:48 am
    Post #137 - July 13th, 2011, 10:48 am Post #137 - July 13th, 2011, 10:48 am
    trotsky wrote:This secondary market is a hassle...

    Looks like there's some change brewing...from Next's Facebook Wall:
    NOTE TO SCALPERS... we will be enforcing our TOS. If you advertise or sell tickets for more than face value they will be voided.... and yes that means if you buy from a scalper for more than face value they will still be voided.

    From a cursory reading, the TOS says tickets may be voided due to unlawful sales and suggests that selling for over face value may be unlawful in your area. I wonder how this will play out...how do they determine where a sale took place in order to deem it unlawful? Do they involve the police? This seems to be a pretty big reversal from their earlier 'free market' responses.

    Some key parts of the TOS:
    Your Next Ticket is completely transferable. However, you should be aware that selling tickets for greater than face value may be illegal in your area.

    Unlawful resale (or attempted resale), counterfeit or copy of Next Ticket is grounds for seizure and cancellation without compensation. In addition, Next reserves the right to restrict or deny Next Ticket purchasing privileges to anyone that Next determines to be, or has been, in violation of this policy.

    For the record, I do not currently own any tickets for Next...
  • Post #138 - July 13th, 2011, 11:03 am
    Post #138 - July 13th, 2011, 11:03 am Post #138 - July 13th, 2011, 11:03 am
    Interesting. This is quite a change in policy since, as one Facebook poster noted, Nick was quoted in a NYT article being curious about what tickets will go for on the secondary market. In any case, you can get a primer on Chicago and Illinois scalping laws at http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1539655.html
  • Post #139 - July 13th, 2011, 11:04 am
    Post #139 - July 13th, 2011, 11:04 am Post #139 - July 13th, 2011, 11:04 am
    HI,

    There is tolerance for trading reservations or selling at face value or less. There have been a few who were scalping, those posts were pulled.

    It is preferred once a transaction is resolved, to alert a moderator to take down your offer.

    Regards,
    Cathy2 for the moderators
    Cathy2

    "You'll be remembered long after you're dead if you make good gravy, mashed potatoes and biscuits." -- Nathalie Dupree
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  • Post #140 - July 13th, 2011, 11:08 am
    Post #140 - July 13th, 2011, 11:08 am Post #140 - July 13th, 2011, 11:08 am
    In the past I thought Nick said that there wasn't much they could do to stop the scalping. I have no idea how they are going to catch people selling on Craigslist unless they bait them to get the confirmation number or persons name without first paying and then void the tickets that way.

    Someone yesterday posted that scalping is legal in Chicago but who knows.
  • Post #141 - July 13th, 2011, 11:16 am
    Post #141 - July 13th, 2011, 11:16 am Post #141 - July 13th, 2011, 11:16 am
    TCK wrote:In the past I thought Nick said that there wasn't much they could do to stop the scalping. I have no idea how they are going to catch people selling on Craigslist unless they bait them to get the confirmation number or persons name without first paying and then void the tickets that way.

    Someone yesterday posted that scalping is legal in Chicago but who knows.


    Scalping is only legal in certain circumstances. See the link in my post above. In short:

    The resale of tickets to sports, concerts, and other events usually is illegal in Illinois, if the tickets fetch more than the original price. ...

    In 1991 Illinois authorized ticket brokers to resell tickets at premium prices, 720 ILCS 375/1.5(b), if they registered with the Illinois Secretary of State and collected all local taxes-for municipalities in Illinois tax the selling price of tickets, see 65 ILCS 5/11-42-5, and want to collect additional taxes on the difference between the original selling price and any higher resale price. Since 1995 the City of Chicago has taken advantage of this opportunity to tax the incremental price of resold tickets. Chicago Municipal Code § 4-156-020. The tax is 9% of the original price, and a further 9% of any profit on a ticket's resale.

    Illinois amended its scalping laws again in 2005, adding a new subsection (c) to the Ticket Sale and Resale Act. 720 ILCS 375/1.5(c). This amendment allows an “Internet auction listing service” to resell tickets, but it attaches several conditions. One is that the auction service register with both the Secretary of State and the Department of Financial and Professional Regulation. Another is that the auction service either collect and remit all required taxes or publish “a written notice on the website after the sale of one or more tickets that automatically informs the ticket reseller of the ticket reseller's potential legal obligation to pay any applicable local amusement tax in connection with the reseller's sale of tickets, and discloses to law enforcement or other government tax officials, without subpoena, the name, city, state, telephone number, e-mail address, user ID history, fraud complaints, and bidding and listing history of any specifically identified reseller or purchaser upon the receipt of a verified request from law enforcement or other government tax officials relating to a criminal investigation or alleged illegal activity”


    I highlighted "other events" because I'm not sure if a dining reservation is considered an event for the purposes of this law. For those who are interested in combing through the actual law, it is available at http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/il ... apterID=53
  • Post #142 - July 13th, 2011, 11:21 am
    Post #142 - July 13th, 2011, 11:21 am Post #142 - July 13th, 2011, 11:21 am
    Darren72 wrote:Interesting. This is quite a change in policy since, as one Facebook poster noted, Nick was quoted in a NYT article being curious about what tickets will go for on the secondary market. In any case, you can get a primer on Chicago and Illinois scalping laws at http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1539655.html


    Perhaps Nick became concerned that his initial curiosity would be interpreted as acceptance of this practice.
    “Nobody exists on purpose. Nobody belongs anywhere. Everybody’s gonna die. Come watch TV?”
  • Post #143 - July 13th, 2011, 1:19 pm
    Post #143 - July 13th, 2011, 1:19 pm Post #143 - July 13th, 2011, 1:19 pm
    So anyone else notice if the price has crept up a bit for this menu? A friend got a two-top with drink pairing for a Friday night at 6:30 or so for Paris, and the same for Thailand, but the Thai bill was about $50 higher. Some of you folks teased me for asking about itemized receipts - hey, that's cool, it's the internet - but this is just the kind of question such a receipt could clarify. At the least, I've already heard of enough billing errors or confusion that I don't exactly trust the degree of competence at work here. I trust the people, and I trust the intent, but the whole system (both literal and metaphoric) seems very buggy to me. It'd take an impressive amount of smugness and/or cynicism for Next to claim complete satisfaction with the way this has worked out, from buying tickets to the sale of said tickets on the secondary market.
  • Post #144 - July 13th, 2011, 1:26 pm
    Post #144 - July 13th, 2011, 1:26 pm Post #144 - July 13th, 2011, 1:26 pm
    Vitesse98 wrote:So anyone else notice if the price has crept up a bit for this menu? A friend got a two-top with drink pairing for a Friday night at 6:30 or so for Paris, and the same for Thailand, but the Thai bill was about $50 higher. Some of you folks teased me for asking about itemized receipts - hey, that's cool, it's the internet - but this is just the kind of question such a receipt could clarify. At the least, I've already heard of enough billing errors or confusion that I don't exactly trust the degree of competence at work here. I trust the people, and I trust the intent, but the whole system (both literal and metaphoric) seems very buggy to me. It'd take an impressive amount of smugness and/or cynicism for Next to claim complete satisfaction with the way this has worked out, from buying tickets to the sale of said tickets on the secondary market.

    I am not sure about the pricing for just the food, but the Thai drink pairings are about $10 more expensive than the price for the standard wine pairings for the Paris menu. Coupled with what could be a $10 differential based on seating times (there can be a bump even from one 15 minute slot to the next) if the times were not exactly the same or a $10 differential from last season to this, plus tax, tip and service charge, and there's the $50.
  • Post #145 - July 13th, 2011, 1:27 pm
    Post #145 - July 13th, 2011, 1:27 pm Post #145 - July 13th, 2011, 1:27 pm
    Vitesse98 wrote:So anyone else notice if the price has crept up a bit for this menu? A friend got a two-top with drink pairing for a Friday night at 6:30 or so for Paris, and the same for Thailand, but the Thai bill was about $50 higher.


    IIRC from Nick: The range of price is the same, the average price is cheaper, the beverage price is slightly higher (depending on the pairing),

    Food: 70 to 115
    Pairing: 0 for water, 38 for non-alcoholic, 58 for beverage pairing, I don't remember wine pairing
    Sale Tax: roughly 11%
    Service Charge: 18%
  • Post #146 - July 13th, 2011, 1:32 pm
    Post #146 - July 13th, 2011, 1:32 pm Post #146 - July 13th, 2011, 1:32 pm
    Vitesse98 wrote: I trust the people, and I trust the intent, but the whole system (both literal and metaphoric) seems very buggy to me.


    My credit card was "declined" by the site three times yesterday before I switched to another card and finally got the transaction to go through. The site seemed so buggy that my spidey sense told me to check with my credit-card issuer. Indeed, my first card has three erroneous charges pending for the same set of two tickets -- a total of more than $1200. If the charges actually post to my account, I'll blow a gasket. I've e-mailed Next and posted about the problem on Facebook.
  • Post #147 - July 13th, 2011, 1:42 pm
    Post #147 - July 13th, 2011, 1:42 pm Post #147 - July 13th, 2011, 1:42 pm
    I have a conundrum that I would like some help with. I managed to get tickets for a 2 top in September, but in my excitement I accidentally selected the wine pairing instead of the beverage pairing. I emailed Next and they replied quickly that they could change the pairing option but could not refund me the difference, which I believe is fairly significant. So my question is, should I switch to the more Thai-appropriate beverage pairing, or stay with the wine pairing to "get my money's worth." Or should my dining companion and I get one of each?

    Thanks!
    Anthony Bourdain on Barack Obama: "He's from Chicago, so he knows what good food is."
  • Post #148 - July 13th, 2011, 1:52 pm
    Post #148 - July 13th, 2011, 1:52 pm Post #148 - July 13th, 2011, 1:52 pm
    geli wrote:I have a conundrum that I would like some help with. I managed to get tickets for a 2 top in September, but in my excitement I accidentally selected the wine pairing instead of the beverage pairing. I emailed Next and they replied quickly that they could change the pairing option but could not refund me the difference, which I believe is fairly significant. So my question is, should I switch to the more Thai-appropriate beverage pairing, or stay with the wine pairing to "get my money's worth." Or should my dining companion and I get one of each?

    Thanks!


    I believe the wine pairings are $70.
    I am not sure I'd call the wine pairings "Thai inappropriate".
    In any case, I'm not sure how anyone else can answer this for you. We don't know how much you like wine, beer, punches, and $20 bills.
    If it were me, I'd stick with the wine since I'm sure they are giving interesting stuff that justifies the extra $20 in list price. But I like wine.
  • Post #149 - July 13th, 2011, 1:59 pm
    Post #149 - July 13th, 2011, 1:59 pm Post #149 - July 13th, 2011, 1:59 pm
    Darren72 wrote:
    geli wrote:I have a conundrum that I would like some help with. I managed to get tickets for a 2 top in September, but in my excitement I accidentally selected the wine pairing instead of the beverage pairing. I emailed Next and they replied quickly that they could change the pairing option but could not refund me the difference, which I believe is fairly significant. So my question is, should I switch to the more Thai-appropriate beverage pairing, or stay with the wine pairing to "get my money's worth." Or should my dining companion and I get one of each?

    Thanks!


    I believe the wine pairings are $70.
    I am not sure I'd call the wine pairings "Thai inappropriate".
    In any case, I'm not sure how anyone else can answer this for you. We don't know how much you like wine, beer, punches, and $20 bills.
    If it were me, I'd stick with the wine since I'm sure they are giving interesting stuff that justifies the extra $20 in list price.


    I agree that wine is not Thai inappropriate (by way of example, I thought I had heard that Thai stalwart Lotus of Siam in Vegas has one of the biggest commercial collections of Riesling in the country). I believe that the upcharge for the wine pairing accounts for some of their "Reserve" selections. If Next is anything like Alinea, the wines you'll get will be well worth it.
  • Post #150 - July 13th, 2011, 2:12 pm
    Post #150 - July 13th, 2011, 2:12 pm Post #150 - July 13th, 2011, 2:12 pm
    I agree that wine can work well with Thai food--in fact, that's what I usually choose for Thai BYOB--but I know that it's not a traditional Thai option, especially vis a vis Thai street food, and I suppose I'm curious about Next's take on the more usual Thai beverages. That said (poorly!), I love wine and I can't imagine that the Next reserve list will be anything other than superb, so...hmmm. I suppose if this is the hardest decision I have to make all day I shouldn't complain!
    Anthony Bourdain on Barack Obama: "He's from Chicago, so he knows what good food is."

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