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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:26 pm 
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OK, I tasted Peruvian green sauce at a neighborhood resto in Montreal, fell in love with the stuff. Took a couple weeks of pretty careful research with help from my Nicaraguan foodie buddy, and determined conclusively that the mystery ingredient is T. minuta, an Andean marigold. Got seeds. Found that, indeed, it IS hard to germinate/grow, just like everyone said. But my grape-breeding buddy Jean--with his greenhouse--has succeeded: we've got the plant in beau-copius amounts. NOW:

anybody got a recipe for the Peruvian green sauce?

I can dry some of the plant and maybe supply a few folks' needs, once I get the scheme down.

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Geo,

Janet C. has been on this quest as well. You will want to read this thread to see her ideas, as well as Gary's and many others, for this sauce. We even went to a Peruvian restaurant as a group to make comparatives.

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Cathy2 wrote:
Geo,

Janet C. has been on this quest as well. You will want to read this thread to see her ideas, as well as Gary's and many others, for this sauce. We even went to a Peruvian restaurant as a group to make comparatives.

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I went to that group dinner, and I liked Gary's recipe better than that served by the restaurant, for what that is worth.

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Tnx C2 and JiLS--

Gary's sauce is indeed very interesting, but as a commentator later mentioned, it's missing something, and what it's missing is the T. minuta, sometimes called "black mint" or huacatay. Here's the comment from Gernot Katzer's "spice pages" §:

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Mint marigold (Tagetes minuta and Tagetes elliptica, Asteraceae) is an important herb in the Andean cuisines of Bolivia and Perú. In cookbooks, it is mostly named by its name in Quechua huacatay (Aymara wacataya). The herb has a remarkable, spicy-fresh flavour and should be used only in the fresh state, although a pesto-like concoction (Salsa de Huacatay, black mint sauce) can be made from it that preserves much of the original taste.


Edmundo and I verified this info off a couple of folklorico pages from Peruvian universities. [There's a lot of confusion: too many people think that the green color and flavor come from epazote, which couldn't be right, if you've ever tasted fresh epazote.]

Anyway, I'm going to give Gary's recipe a try, with the addition of huacatay. (I've also got some Peruvian aji peppers growing, but don't expect to get them ripe until Sept. Be interesting to see how they compare with the jalapenos from Gary's recipe.)

Tnx again--I just *knew* yinz would know what to do!

Geo

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BTW, the black mint seeds are available from Richter's in Canada (the most amazing herb site I've ever seen!):

http://www.richters.com/Web_store/web_s ... 0280.27591


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Geo,

Please let me know how your sauce turns out. I never was able to duplicate an exact replica of the sauce, and would love to find out how to make it at home. I find it amazing that it's been nearly impossible to track down an accurate recipe for such a seemingly simple and ubiquitous sauce (at least in Peruvian restaurants).

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Janet C--

Will do!

I went out on the net last night, got about 7 google pages deep on "salsa de huacatay", and found something interesting. There are exactly two independent Spanish-language recipes, duplicated and re-duplicated forever. They differ a bit from one another, and from Gary's recipe. With two exceptions for ingredients, I think Gary's will be the superior recipe. First, most recipes called for queso fresco (altho' one suggested feta as a substitute), and, secondly, all called for the addition of either fresh milk, or evaporated milk. I suspect that the latter is much more common, than the former.

All, of course, called for the use of aji peppers. Since the color of these range from yellow through orange to red, this is a clue that the green color of the sauce doesn't come from the peppers, but rather from something else. Which is what led me initially on the Great Quest to find the answer to the Big Question "What the hey! is the green herb that evidently makes this sauce unique??!"

Unfortunately, the plants are in Jean's greenhouse in Montreal and I'm in KC. But, TODG will be flying my way in two weeks, and I'll ask her to bring me a potted plant or two. THEN, the big test.

I just *love* this kind of detective work! :^)

Stay tuned!

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Hi Geo,

Reinspired by your post, I did some more web searching to see if I could find out more than I did in the past.

Came across a couple of interesting (but very different recipes). One called for blending jalapenos, lettuce, and mayo (someone posted this as the recipe from a Peruvian restaurant in LA, I think).

Here's another similar recipe also using lettuce (!!) that I just found from an old Chowhound post:

Ingredients:

1 head of iceburg lettuce
1/2 cup mayonnaise
Half a bunch of cilantro
4 serrano chilis
minced garlic
1 tablespoon water
1/2 cup olive oil
Salt and pepper to taste

Throw the first six ingredients in a blender or food processor and pulse ingredients are combined. Drizzle in olive oil as the blender is working through sauce. Add salt and pepper to taste. The sauce my seem a little thin at first but let it sit for couple of minutes and the sauce will thicken a nice consistency.

Another recipe called for cooking the aji peppers (I'm assuming jalapeno can be subbed in) in boiling water with some sugar added then blending it up with some oil.

The funny thing is that many people seem to be trying to track down the definitive recipe for this sauce and it's still remains elusive...

I think I'm going to have to do some more experimenting myself. Will let you know if either of these comes close!

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Janet C. wrote:
Here's another similar recipe also using lettuce (!!) ...


There was a bit of discussion about "salsa de lechuga" on this thread a few months ago...


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 Post subject: Re: Peruvian green sauce recipe?
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Just wanted to revive this thread... this sauce is addicting as hell, and I NEED to be able to prepare this at home. My wife's family is Peruvian, and they tell me that the two must-have ingredients for the recipe are indeed huacatay ("black mint") and aji amarillo. Apparently you can find aji amarillo in some latin-american grocery stores in Chicago, but huacatay is impossible to come by in the U.S., which is why they never prepare it here unless someone has just brought some huacatay with them from a trip to Peru.

Now, I'm not really satisfied with this situation because obviously the three or four Peruvian restaurants in Chicago must obtain the huacatay from somewhere (don't believe them for a second when they tell you that the sauce contains jalapenos, serranos, or other hot peppers most often found in Mexican cuisine).

So, back to the original poster's question: has anyone been able to grow (or even better for my purposes, buy) huacatay in Chicago? Any leads would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Peruvian green sauce recipe?
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I've got huacutay growing, even as we speak, in my garden here in KC. It has successfully re-seeded two seasons. Buy it here:

http://www.richters.com/Web_store/web_s ... 3971.13170

It's a bit difficult to germinate, but can most certainly be done.

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 Post subject: Re: Peruvian green sauce recipe?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:27 pm 
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Thank you, Geo. I will definitely try my hand at growing this if I can't buy it anywhere. Thanks for the link.

May I ask you what it tastes like? Does it taste like a mild basil, which is how I imagine it might?


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 Post subject: Re: Peruvian green sauce recipe?
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I wouldn't say basil. It's very mild, but it has a teeny tiny bit of marigold about it, plus some other novel flavors. Pleasant, and you can taste where the green sauce comes from.

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 Post subject: Re: Peruvian green sauce recipe?
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Now you've really piqued my interest!

Thanks!


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This source lists some other names by which you may ask about it in Latin stores. Also, I have seen tagetes oil in health-food stores.

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 Post subject: Re: Peruvian green sauce recipe?
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MLS Post subject: D'Candela saucePosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:43 pm

Peruvian (mostly chicken) place had an addictive pale green, seemingly mayonaise based sauce that I put on everything. Pretty picquant too.

What was it? How is it made?



This is the stuff! Thanks for bringing back this post.

They call it aji and I have since seen the recipe made both with and without mayo and lettuce, but peppers, garlic, olive oil, and cilantro are always required.


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