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 Post subject: Lao Beijing - An Awful First Impression
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:39 pm 
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A group of us met for lunch today at the newly opened Lao Beijing in Chinatown Square. I had very high hopes for this restaurant and was looking forward to checking out their version of Peking Duck. The only problem was that they didn't have Peking Duck (or, in fact, any duck at all). For me, this was as good as the end of the story. What kind of restaurant specializing in Peking cuisine doesn't offer any duck dishes? In fairness, they had a few dishes, including Peking Duck, listed on their menu, so perhaps they may have it in the future, however I find the lack of duck to be a cardinal sin.

It was obvious that this place had only been open a short while, because they haven't put up new signage with the restaurant's name yet and they are still offering the Cantonese menu of the place that occupied the location before Tony took it over. Leaving that behind, we ordered several dishes from the as yet untranslated Chinese Language Menu with the half-hearted help of our server.

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We ordered some fried dough, chive pancakes and a do it yourself version of a pork belly/scallion pancake. In every case the renditions served at Lao Beijing pale in comparison to versions you can get elsewhere, in particular those at GNR Winner Ed's Potsticker House.

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At the suggestion of our server, we ordered a dish of pork with crispy fried noodles. What we got was a dish right out the the Jewish-Suburban Chinese cookbook, featuring limp noodles covered in a thick cornstarch gravy with some strips of pork, peapods and some American broccoli.

Lao Beijing Pork With Crispy Noodles
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All was not gloom and doom, though. We did order a few dishes which were very good. After being told that they do not offer the lamb dumplings listed on the menu, we opted for some Dragon King Sunshine Dumplings, which looked like Xiao Long Bao but were filled with meat only (no soup and served on a plate rather than in a steamer). These were perfectly fine, but nothing you couldn't get better prepared at Shui Wah just a few doors down. We also got a "salad" consisting of julienne cucumbers, mildish jalapeños, peanuts and cilantro with a spicy dressing. This was very good!

Lao Beijing Cucumber Salad
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Another standout dish were skewers of lamb rubbed with cumin.

Lao Beijing Lamb
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As I said at the beginning of the post, I was very disappointed in this restaurant. It was so much not to my liking that if it weren't for the pedigree of the owner, I'd probably not go back. Given how much I like Lao Sze Chuan, I'll probably give Lao Peking a few months to get its sea legs and then go back if someone else suggests it.

Lao Beijing
2138 S. Archer Ave
Chicago, IL
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Thanks, Steve, for the sneak peek. Too bad it was disappointing. Opening 2 restaurants at the same time seemed like a daunting task, even for a seasoned pro like Tony. It sounds like some adjustment time will be necessary, at the very least.

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This restaurant location was once Dragon King, right?

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Underwhelmed is how I would describe it. Out of 7-8 things, I found 2 to be very good, the cuke salad w/peanuts and the lamb skewers. The rest was, to be polite, adequate at best. We pulled a kuhdo though and rallied by walking across the mall to get ducked after the fact. It left us no choice.

It's to early to tell though, so based on Tony's rep, I'd agree to try it again in a month or so (even though I feel he misjudged in trying to open two places simultaneously, something is going to suffer, and apparently both have.)

And yes, it is in the Dragon King space.

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Jazzfood wrote:
We pulled a kuhdo though and rallied by walking across the mall to get ducked after the fact.


Ah, what might have been. These photos are from our Khudo lunch at Wing Chan

Duck (No pancakes or scallions, though)
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BBQ Chicken Legs
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Wing Chan BBQ
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 Post subject: Re: Lao Beijing - An Awful First Impression
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stevez wrote:
a dish right out the the Jewish-Suburban Chinese cookbook
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with some strips of pork

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I went to Lao Beijing this evening. It's in the location of the old Dragon King and the signs haven't changed -- Tony Hu says they'll be getting this done soon. They still serve the Dragon King menu along with a short version of what's to be a pretty extensive Lao Beijing menu.

First impressions --

Pai huang gua (smashed cucumber in garlic and vinegar) pretty much matched my expectations from when I lived in Beijing, but the pork on top subtracted by addition. The steamed pork/cabbage dumplings with vinegar brought back some memories but I felt like the sauce was missing something to give it fullness. The Beijing duck underwhelmed and the tortillas in place of real wrappers disappointed. The service was great.

I'll be back, but I'll give them some time to work out the kinks. They have a bunch of lamb offerings on the extended menu, none of which were available when I went, but they sure sounded yummy. They also plan to have Dongbei-style pancakes which will be a treat.


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Cathy2 wrote:
This restaurant location was once Dragon King, right?

Yes, Lao Beijing is located in the old Dragon King space.

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They also plan to have Dongbei-style pancakes which will be a treat.

Prairiedogs,

You mind elaborating a bit. I'm not familiar with Dongbei-style pancakes and a web search yielded little aside from Dongbei-style is from Northeastern China.

Lao Beijing's steamed dumplings reminded me of my wife's favorite dumplings at the now defunct Korean restaurant Lincoln Noodle House to the extent I was picking a time to take her to Lao Beijing. After a bit more web noodling, I wonder if they are Dongbei-style as there's culinary crossover with Korea. Lao Beijing might even offer Ja jiang mian.

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stevez wrote:
however I find the lack of duck to be a cardinal sin.

Steve,

Yes, it's daffy Lao Beijing did not have duck, though as they are only open a few days I don't quite find it the cardinal, or would that be mallard, sin as you. What I find surprising is Prairiedogs's mention Lao Beijing using tortillas for Peking duck wrappers.

That said, I quite liked elements of our lunch, for example Cucumber with peanut, cilantro, scallion and crushed red pepper and the steamed dumplings. The various 'pancake' dishes were tasty, as was the skewered lamb with cumin, though, as mentioned, Ed’s Potsticker does similar dishes equally, if not better.

I'm guessing over time, a surprisingly short time, Lao Beijing, and sister restaurant, Lao Shanghai, will develop nicely.

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G Wiv wrote:
I'm guessing over time, a surprisingly short time, Lao Beijing, and sister restaurant, Lao Shanghai, will develop nicely.


Like I said, I have no problem giving Lao Beijing a second try in deference to Tony, but it would only be after some time has passed and more favorable reviews start to appear.

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HI,

When I don't feel like making Chinese doilies/wrappers for Peking duck or moo shu pork, then I will use flour tortillas. I buy the kind I can work them apart into two wrappers per tortilla and later steam them. These have worked out so well, that now I almost never make the wrappers myself.

When making the Chinese doilies, you put a bit of sesame oil between the two disks of dough. You roll them out together to make a compound doily. When you put the compound doily into a griddle/frying pan to cook, then the steam of the oil separates them into two very thin doilies. Later you steam the doilies before cooking.

I guess I don't find the tortillas as shocking, though I bet I do a few extra steps than what was served.

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Hi G Wiv,

LBJ wasn't serving the pancakes so I don't know what they'll be like when they begin, but the northeastern pancakes I ate when I lived in Beijing were starches served in place of noodles or rice and had some corn meal in them.

The tortillas as wrappers weren't an awful substitute -- the plum sauce dominated whatever flavor the wrappers had -- but yeah, a little disappointing.


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I stopped by Lao Beijing for a late lunch yesterday and had a very sub par meal. I went with my 20 year old brother and his 18 year old friend, so I was not as adventuress as usual. But this is one of the reasons it was even more disappointing. We were going to start with the pot stickers and the vegetable steamed buns, but the buns did not come out until we were done with our entire meal. The pot stickers were dry, luke warm and has a serious lack of flavor. And the steamed buns, when they came, were
a bit tough and only had a thimble full of stuffing. They were steaming hot and DIY, but I would have preferred a frozen store bought product.
Then we ordered the Salt & Pepper Shrimp, Shanghai Pan Fried Noodles & Mongolian Beef. The Salt and Pepper Shrimp had a good flavor, but 4 of the shrimp we had were ineditble due to texture. Flabby and liquid texture after you bit through the yummy fried crust. The Shanghai Noodles were the best of the bunch, with crispy noodles, shrimp and napa cabbage. The pan sauce was perfect and it was loaded with ginger. Then the Mongolian Beef which was over cooked and unimaginative. Also the table side tea was cold and we did not get any rice until our steamed buns came. All in all a pretty bad experience. I will go back and try again, because in Tony I trust. And I always give a second chance.

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 Post subject: Re: Lao Beijing - An Awful First Impression
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I went with a friend to Chinatown today. She wanted to meet her son as he got off the El there and have lunch. We walked around for a good while, browsing, people watching and she wanted to try out Lao Beijing mostly because she was curious as to what 'food from Beijing would be like'.

The place was packed when we went in and we waited around 15 minutes to get seated.We both took this as a good sign.The weird thing was that they didn't seem to have menus yet? They handed us printed take out menus and told us to order off of there. I also had an issue when trying to order certain dishes that the waitress would immediately tell me "Not for you. You won't like that. Pick something else."

We had the Onion Pancake, Shanghai style pork dumplings, rice with egg and green onion, all which were good. After going through our run around with the server about things we would or wouldn't like, she suggested that we try the House Special Beijing pork. The pork itself was prepared well, slightly breaded and fried but the sauce it was in was a far too sweet, and it was very thick and syrupy, almost like a jarred sweet and sour sauce, but darker.

I think that I'd like to try the place out again, on a day where it was a bit slower, and I would possibly have more time to go over the menu and find a better way to assure the waiter/waitress that I would really eat some of the dishes. :)

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I went to Lao Beijing on Monday to arrange for a Chinese new year's party and tasted four dishes. The Beiing pork was crispy and served with a light sauce that was not overly sweet and our favorite dish of the evening. The Beijing style tofu used a very light sauce, included cucumbers and fungus. The tofu was silky smooth and the sauce did not overpower the dish. Lamb with cumin is similar to the one served at Lao Sze Chuan and even the jalpenos were flavorfull. Finally we finished with the fried dough that are sliced and even the uncooked middle portions was tasty but a liitle greasy. My overall impression of the food was good, although it helped that Tony was there that night to meet with me about my event.


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I went to Lao Beijing for the first time for lunch on Tuesday. I had Szechuan dumplings-very much like the ones at Lao Sze Chuan-and a terrific salt and pepper squid. My companion had a spicy beef dish from the lunch menu. It was all quite tasty and the lunch menu is significantly less expensive than the dinner menu and included soup. Our total was less than $20. I was favorably impressed.

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I went to Lao Beijing a couple of times late last year and was disappointed. I was hoping for an Ed's in Chinatown. My two cents is that the owner seems to serve a lot of the same menu as Lao Sze Chuan. Sichuan and Beijing/Northern are totally different cuisines and there is not a lot of crossover. I understand that you have to have Beef and Broccoli, Crab Rangoon and Fried Rice, but why is there Congee, Dan Dan Mein, and Chengdu Dry Chili Chicken on a menu from a Beijing-style restaurant? These are very specifically regional foods and not Beijing style food. You would have to go out of your way to get these things in Beijing. The menu to me is more Lao Sze Chuan with some Northern style apps/breakfast foods. I have not set foot in Lao Shanghai because I fear the same thing. I hope things change over and will try to keep an eye on the menu when I walk through the Mall.


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Four of us were there yesterday, Saturday, for lunch. All and all a very enjoyable experience. The place was busy and the food good. We had the Shanghai dumplings, tomato soup, pancake, black mushroom/pork ball casserole, and a couple of other dishes. Everything was good. Be warned, if the dish is specified as peppery it really, really is very spicy hot. The waiter was amusing and intent. We all had a good time and then drove out to Freddy's in Cicero for gelato. A good day.

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