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  • Post #901 - March 17th, 2020, 10:47 am
    Post #901 - March 17th, 2020, 10:47 am Post #901 - March 17th, 2020, 10:47 am
    eating while walking wrote:I feel that in general, a beef from a random deli is going to be better than a beef from a random stand. Like if you had to pick between a deli and a stand with no other information available, go with the deli every time. I've never had a bad deli IB and there have been some great ones - like Bari.

    I wouldn’t say better but different.

    A deli beef will be fresher, slightly pink that might carry through to the sandwich, maybe freshly sliced...

    393DA6EB-11F4-4F66-99F6-4F95BBC6B1A5.jpeg Notolli on Belmont

    ... whereas a Italian Beef from a stand won’t have that pink color but will be tender, delicious. A time tested preparation refined over the years and what we have come to know and love.

    C55FDD4D-E7AD-41A9-A733-C2BBDE6CAED8.jpeg Johnnie’s

    Both are great! Top of their class in their respective styles.
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  • Post #902 - June 26th, 2020, 9:12 pm
    Post #902 - June 26th, 2020, 9:12 pm Post #902 - June 26th, 2020, 9:12 pm
    Tasty Italian Beef today at Wolfy's. ---> Link to post in Wolfy's thread.

    Wolfy's
    2734 W Peterson Ave
    Chicago, IL 60659
    773-743-0207
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  • Post #903 - June 28th, 2020, 9:20 am
    Post #903 - June 28th, 2020, 9:20 am Post #903 - June 28th, 2020, 9:20 am
    Panther in the Den wrote:
    eating while walking wrote:I feel that in general, a beef from a random deli is going to be better than a beef from a random stand. Like if you had to pick between a deli and a stand with no other information available, go with the deli every time. I've never had a bad deli IB and there have been some great ones - like Bari.

    I wouldn’t say better but different.

    A deli beef will be fresher, slightly pink that might carry through to the sandwich, maybe freshly sliced...

    ... whereas a Italian Beef from a stand won’t have that pink color but will be tender, delicious. A time tested preparation refined over the years and what we have come to know and love.

    Both are great! Top of their class in their respective styles.
    I know a guy who doesn't care for any of the deli beefs over the stands. I've kind of saved many of the famous deli beefs for later on my beef sandwich journey. I've had Frangella and Freddy's Pizza which were both excellent beef sandwiches (both bigger than most stands). When the COVID thing is over I am going to finally have Bari, Notolli, Riviera, and Serrelli's and any other that I missed.
  • Post #904 - July 22nd, 2020, 9:19 am
    Post #904 - July 22nd, 2020, 9:19 am Post #904 - July 22nd, 2020, 9:19 am
    Solid List, I would have put Johnnies at #1....

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  • Post #905 - July 22nd, 2020, 12:44 pm
    Post #905 - July 22nd, 2020, 12:44 pm Post #905 - July 22nd, 2020, 12:44 pm
    HonestMan wrote:Solid List, I would have put Johnnies at #1....


    Surely owing to following Nick on Twitter, I've had Italian Beef on the brain lately, and coincidentally made the trip to Johnnie's this afternoon. Man. Even better than I remembered. There's this distinct peppery bite that really makes for a lively sandwich where there is often a sodden mess. The Italian Ice seals the deal: best beef destination in the area for me.
  • Post #906 - July 22nd, 2020, 1:02 pm
    Post #906 - July 22nd, 2020, 1:02 pm Post #906 - July 22nd, 2020, 1:02 pm
    I can go with Johnnies or Al's for number one. Both hit my taste buds in a very fine manner. I hit Bobo's about 6 months ago and it was a visually beautiful beef, but virtually no taste. Maybe watered down gravy? I will have to try again. I just use the rating system of 10 is tops and 0 is yuck. I have Johnnies and Al's at 9.99 (have to leave a little room just in case). I always like Luke's, and Mr. Beef but at 9.7. Portillo's I have at 9.6.
  • Post #907 - July 22nd, 2020, 3:33 pm
    Post #907 - July 22nd, 2020, 3:33 pm Post #907 - July 22nd, 2020, 3:33 pm
    Jay’s below Portillo’s, Bob-O’s and Johnnie’s? No way...
    Portillo’s has always tasted burnt and greasy to me, Bob-O’s is usually too dry (despite ordering it wet) and Johnnie’s is a shell of its former self - Two tablespoons of beef on a sandwich with an over abundance of attitude on the side.
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  • Post #908 - July 22nd, 2020, 3:50 pm
    Post #908 - July 22nd, 2020, 3:50 pm Post #908 - July 22nd, 2020, 3:50 pm
    In reading this thread, and Nick K's article, I had a scary thought. McD's featuring a Chicago Style Mc-Italian-Beef. Think McR*b but worse, if possible.
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  • Post #909 - July 22nd, 2020, 9:55 pm
    Post #909 - July 22nd, 2020, 9:55 pm Post #909 - July 22nd, 2020, 9:55 pm
    Johnnies on Arlington Hts Rd last Friday was so so. Flavor was good but the sweet peppers really let the side down. Still way better than the Portillos I had tonight.
  • Post #910 - July 25th, 2020, 12:48 am
    Post #910 - July 25th, 2020, 12:48 am Post #910 - July 25th, 2020, 12:48 am
    G Wiv wrote: In reading this thread, and Nick K's article, I had a scary thought. McD's featuring a Chicago Style Mc-Italian-Beef. Think McR*b but worse, if possible.
    If this ever was to occur, I would picket outside the McDonald's in the West Loop (1035 W. Randolph St.) for at least two hours one weekday afternoon | evening. :idea:
    Even if I was the only person in the picket line. :arrow:
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  • Post #911 - July 25th, 2020, 7:54 am
    Post #911 - July 25th, 2020, 7:54 am Post #911 - July 25th, 2020, 7:54 am
    G Wiv wrote:In reading this thread, and Nick K's article, I had a scary thought. McD's featuring a Chicago Style Mc-Italian-Beef. Think McR*b but worse, if possible.

    Wouldn't that just be Arby's?
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  • Post #912 - July 25th, 2020, 8:11 am
    Post #912 - July 25th, 2020, 8:11 am Post #912 - July 25th, 2020, 8:11 am
    G Wiv wrote:In reading this thread, and Nick K's article, I had a scary thought. McD's featuring a Chicago Style Mc-Italian-Beef. Think McR*b but worse, if possible.

    JoelF wrote:Wouldn't that just be Arby's?


    I had an Arby's about a year ago, 7.6.19, first in at least a decade. I doubt I will live long enough to have another. Fries on the plus side of edible drenched in horsey sauce.

    Caution - food may appear more delicious than actual
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  • Post #913 - July 25th, 2020, 5:36 pm
    Post #913 - July 25th, 2020, 5:36 pm Post #913 - July 25th, 2020, 5:36 pm
    G Wiv wrote:
    G Wiv wrote:In reading this thread, and Nick K's article, I had a scary thought. McD's featuring a Chicago Style Mc-Italian-Beef. Think McR*b but worse, if possible.

    JoelF wrote:Wouldn't that just be Arby's?


    I had an Arby's about a year ago, 7.6.19, first in at least a decade. I doubt I will live long enough to have another. Fries on the plus side of edible drenched in horsey sauce.

    Caution - food may appear more delicious than actual


    Arby's was a special treat when I was a kid, and as such I still enjoy it in a nostalgic way from time to time. Still, it ain't no Italian Beef. If anything, given the choice of Arby sauce and/or Horsey sauce, it's more of a Madame Tussaud figure of a Baltimore Pit Beef.

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  • Post #914 - July 27th, 2020, 2:37 pm
    Post #914 - July 27th, 2020, 2:37 pm Post #914 - July 27th, 2020, 2:37 pm
    Several months ago I replaced Johnnie's with Mr. D's even though I find it extremely difficult not to order the Steak or Shish-Kabob. I feel the taste is on par with Johnnie's then there is the size, sauteed (not canned) sweet peppers, and those Fries not to mention avoiding the ridiculously long lines, makes it a no brainier for me.

    Additionally based on another member recommendation I went to Pete's on Roosevelt in Oak Park last week for the first time. The Beef sandwich hit all the right buttons. Beef tender, gravy nice and spicy, bread perfectly dipped without disintegrating, loved both Sweet and Hot, and the one way I judge a beef is by the temperature of the Gravy (must be hot) I believe Gravy temperature can make or Break a beef sandwich and this was right on. If it proves to be consistent, Pete's has just shot up near the top of my list!
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  • Post #915 - July 28th, 2020, 11:14 am
    Post #915 - July 28th, 2020, 11:14 am Post #915 - July 28th, 2020, 11:14 am
    Mr. D's is a top 5 for me, and Pete's is a solid top 10. Great choices.
  • Post #916 - July 28th, 2020, 4:14 pm
    Post #916 - July 28th, 2020, 4:14 pm Post #916 - July 28th, 2020, 4:14 pm
    JimTheBeerGuy wrote:Arby's was a special treat when I was a kid, and as such I still enjoy it in a nostalgic way from time to time. Still, it ain't no Italian Beef. If anything, given the choice of Arby sauce and/or Horsey sauce, it's more of a Madame Tussaud figure of a Baltimore Pit Beef.

    Arby's was excellent beef when they started out thin-sliced, rare and salted nicely. The first time I had Arbys was about 1965 on Harlem just south of Irving Park Rd.
    But now they don't have real roast beef its just that pressed and formed crap.

    Another really good beef back in the day was Cal's on Lee just north of Oakton. I used to go there all the time if I was in the neighborhood. Then they went out of business and now it's a Sherwin -Williams store.
  • Post #917 - July 29th, 2020, 9:04 am
    Post #917 - July 29th, 2020, 9:04 am Post #917 - July 29th, 2020, 9:04 am
    I haven't had a Pete's beef in 5 years or so, not because I didn't like it, it's because it tasted very flat out boullion-y to me. And I'm not saying I don't like boullion, either, it was just pretty boring after a while. Not dissing it, there are plenty of places that are not as good. For reference on my tastebuds, I'm firmly on Team Al's Taylor St - even though the prices are horrific. Johnnies Beef, I can take or leave, but Johnnies for a Combo? Number 1 with a bullet.
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  • Post #918 - July 29th, 2020, 10:13 am
    Post #918 - July 29th, 2020, 10:13 am Post #918 - July 29th, 2020, 10:13 am
    Marshall K wrote:Several months ago I replaced Johnnie's with Mr. D's even though I find it extremely difficult not to order the Steak or Shish-Kabob. I feel the taste is on par with Johnnie's then there is the size, sauteed (not canned) sweet peppers, and those Fries not to mention avoiding the ridiculously long lines, makes it a no brainier for me.

    Additionally based on another member recommendation I went to Pete's on Roosevelt in Oak Park last week for the first time. The Beef sandwich hit all the right buttons. Beef tender, gravy nice and spicy, bread perfectly dipped without disintegrating, loved both Sweet and Hot, and the one way I judge a beef is by the temperature of the Gravy (must be hot) I believe Gravy temperature can make or Break a beef sandwich and this was right on. If it proves to be consistent, Pete's has just shot up near the top of my list!


    I've long championed the beef @ Mr. D's and agree that when you add in the fries and such, it's a great option.

    I've really gone off my love of Johnnies. It's mostly the awful bread, but the whole sandwich seems off to me, a pale version of what it once was.

    As I'm on the other end of OP, Pete's not really in the sphere, but Michael's is, and their beef and fries, not Mr. D's, but the best I'm finding on North Ave.
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  • Post #919 - July 29th, 2020, 2:40 pm
    Post #919 - July 29th, 2020, 2:40 pm Post #919 - July 29th, 2020, 2:40 pm
    Anybody been to Frannie's on River Road lately? I haven't gone there in years but I always liked their IB, and combo, Chicken Parmigiana sammie, and their fries.
  • Post #920 - July 29th, 2020, 2:49 pm
    Post #920 - July 29th, 2020, 2:49 pm Post #920 - July 29th, 2020, 2:49 pm
    It was always very solid. Great beef, dogs, and fresh cut fries. I miss being in sales, as whenever I came down to the Chicago metro area I always planned my visits logistically around where I wanted to have lunch. Frannies was always on the list. When covid lightens up, I am going to plan a visit there. Thanks for the reminder.
  • Post #921 - July 30th, 2020, 11:17 am
    Post #921 - July 30th, 2020, 11:17 am Post #921 - July 30th, 2020, 11:17 am
    bob kopczynski wrote:
    brschwartz wrote:
    I would only go there after they closed the kitchen
    at the "Bucket of Suds" 3121 n Cicero.
    The best bar ever! Closed about 5 yrs ago.


    Have I finally come across another old regular from Bucket O Suds (BOS)? Probably the most legendary bar in chicago, mainly due to the PT Barnum of bartenders, Joe Danno. I first met Joe and his sister Fina in 1973 and we became fast friends up until his last day in business some years ago.

    This is a place that deserves its own thread,even though it is long gone. Real italian kitchen cooking and home made hard liquor!!! If there are any other old BOS'rs out there let me know and we can start a thread to figure out the recipe for elixer of lucifer.
    Bob


    A few of my old buddies were regulars at BOS. I've been there many times as we used to have a big get together with Joe a couple of times a year.

    I remember that his sister made a fantastic thin crust pizza!

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