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  • Post #301 - September 3rd, 2020, 11:24 am
    Post #301 - September 3rd, 2020, 11:24 am Post #301 - September 3rd, 2020, 11:24 am
    We ate at a restaurant on the Moon. Social distancing and everyone wore masks. Great food and great service! There was, however, a total lack of atmosphere.
  • Post #302 - September 3rd, 2020, 5:41 pm
    Post #302 - September 3rd, 2020, 5:41 pm Post #302 - September 3rd, 2020, 5:41 pm
    You forgot to mention that the chocolate mousse was incredibly light.
  • Post #303 - September 4th, 2020, 6:57 am
    Post #303 - September 4th, 2020, 6:57 am Post #303 - September 4th, 2020, 6:57 am
    One of America’s Most Respected Restaurant Groups to Lay Off More Than 500 Employees. Boka Group, which co-owns celebrity chef Stephanie Izard's restaurants, has taken a major hit from Covid.

    https://robbreport.com/food-drink/dinin ... s-2948853/
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #304 - September 10th, 2020, 12:53 pm
    Post #304 - September 10th, 2020, 12:53 pm Post #304 - September 10th, 2020, 12:53 pm
    Hi- I live in a condo building on Ridge near Davis. I came back from the dentist today, and I noticed there were some packages on top of our mailboxes as you enter the building. I was going to bring them inside, and I noticed one of the packages was from Peppercorn Kitchens, and was a delivery they just left there. All it had on the bag was our street address. There was no name or unit number on the bag. It was still hot. I don't know who delivered it. It was pig intestines and something else with pork in it, and so it was not something I would order. The person that put the address down, probably did not realize it was a condo building. The Asian gentleman that ordered it, finally came down to get it after about 15 minutes. He probably called up the restaurant wondering where it was.
  • Post #305 - September 10th, 2020, 3:05 pm
    Post #305 - September 10th, 2020, 3:05 pm Post #305 - September 10th, 2020, 3:05 pm
    JP1121 wrote:
    smorris76 wrote:
    WhyBeeSea wrote:
    JP1121 wrote:
    WhyBeeSea wrote:
    toria wrote:It worked for me. We keep out masks on when we order. We ask that the waitstaff does not keep coming back to our table after our food is delivered unless we wave for them and need them. It worked just fine. We will put our masks on when server comes with the check.


    This would be the perfect time to switch to the system I experienced in Seoul. Every table had a button/call bell. Servers only came over when that button was pressed. No need for unnecessary trips from servers.


    None of this sounds fun from either the customers or the servers perspective.


    It's actually brilliant. You only call servers over when you need something. Cuts out the guesswork on both sides.


    The same system is employed at many restaurants in Japan and I agree it's fantastic.



    It is a completely different culture..


    It is a completely different culture. But not because of tipping. The big cultural difference is that they don't suffer from White American Exceptionalism. Over there the government says "wear a mask, take care of each other" and they do. Over here our governor says "wear a mask, take care of each other" and a bunch of people, including those who would tell you with a straight face that they love the restaurant industry, say "eh, kinda a hassle" then they just go ahead and put the server and the other diners and the business and their community at greater risk.
  • Post #306 - September 10th, 2020, 5:22 pm
    Post #306 - September 10th, 2020, 5:22 pm Post #306 - September 10th, 2020, 5:22 pm
    I like the idea of a button on the table or some other device to signal to waitstaff when you would like them to approach. Could be as simple and inexpensive as the red and green coasters used at Brazilian churrascarias.
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #307 - September 10th, 2020, 5:59 pm
    Post #307 - September 10th, 2020, 5:59 pm Post #307 - September 10th, 2020, 5:59 pm
    Katie wrote:I like the idea of a button on the table or some other device to signal to waitstaff when you would like them to approach.

    I’d pay a lot for a button like that for everyday life.
  • Post #308 - September 10th, 2020, 6:17 pm
    Post #308 - September 10th, 2020, 6:17 pm Post #308 - September 10th, 2020, 6:17 pm
    cilantro wrote:
    Katie wrote:I like the idea of a button on the table or some other device to signal to waitstaff when you would like them to approach.

    I’d pay a lot for a button like that for everyday life.

    I'd pay double for one that sent people away.

    =R=
    By protecting others, you save yourself. If you only think of yourself, you'll only destroy yourself. --Kambei Shimada

    Every human interaction is an opportunity for disappointment --RS

    There's a horse loose in a hospital --JM

    That don't impress me much --Shania Twain
  • Post #309 - September 19th, 2020, 12:58 pm
    Post #309 - September 19th, 2020, 12:58 pm Post #309 - September 19th, 2020, 12:58 pm
    Hi- Does anybody know what is going on with reza's location in downtown Evanston? They were supposed to open up in April, and then the pandemic hit, and I have not heard anything more.
  • Post #310 - September 21st, 2020, 8:45 am
    Post #310 - September 21st, 2020, 8:45 am Post #310 - September 21st, 2020, 8:45 am
    Taqueria El Milagro has conquered the pandemic. Each table is surrounded by plexiglass walls that, along with the tables and chairs, are sprayed and wiped between diners.

    Image
    Seems like the Illinois Restaurant Association should spend more of its time encouraging members to implement a system like this rather than focusing on lobbying for life-risking expansions of the number of patrons allowed in restaurants.
  • Post #311 - September 21st, 2020, 11:02 am
    Post #311 - September 21st, 2020, 11:02 am Post #311 - September 21st, 2020, 11:02 am
    Chicago Releases Fall and Winter Outdoor Dining Rules for Restaurants

    https://chicago.eater.com/2020/9/21/214 ... estaurants
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #312 - September 23rd, 2020, 11:43 am
    Post #312 - September 23rd, 2020, 11:43 am Post #312 - September 23rd, 2020, 11:43 am
    Does anyone have an update on Chinatown dining? I am craving Dim Sum. We did take out in the park from Dolo a bit back, and it was OK, but is anyone doing outside dining or the like? Even non-dim sum - I need some variety.
  • Post #313 - September 23rd, 2020, 12:27 pm
    Post #313 - September 23rd, 2020, 12:27 pm Post #313 - September 23rd, 2020, 12:27 pm
    MarlaCollins'Husband wrote:Taqueria El Milagro has conquered the pandemic. Each table is surrounded by plexiglass walls that, along with the tables and chairs, are sprayed and wiped between diners.

    Image
    Seems like the Illinois Restaurant Association should spend more of its time encouraging members to implement a system like this rather than focusing on lobbying for life-risking expansions of the number of patrons allowed in restaurants.

    I'm no expert, but personally I wonder if that's actually a bad idea or at best ineffective. If you think the virus is spread primarily or solely by droplets (big and heavy enough to fall to the ground within a few feet), okay, obstruct droplet spray and wipe surfaces down. If, on the other hand, you think the virus is spread primarily by aerosol particles (small and light enough to float around like cigarette smoke), then all those plexiglass sheets would seem to inhibit the ventilation needed to clear the air sufficiently.
    Last edited by Katie on September 23rd, 2020, 9:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #314 - September 23rd, 2020, 12:46 pm
    Post #314 - September 23rd, 2020, 12:46 pm Post #314 - September 23rd, 2020, 12:46 pm
    tazerowe wrote:Does anyone have an update on Chinatown dining? I am craving Dim Sum. We did take out in the park from Dolo a bit back, and it was OK, but is anyone doing outside dining or the like? Even non-dim sum - I need some variety.

    Not Chinatown but Furama in Uptown has two outdoor tables.

    Furama
    4936 N Broadway
    Chicago, IL 60640
    -Mary
  • Post #315 - September 23rd, 2020, 1:55 pm
    Post #315 - September 23rd, 2020, 1:55 pm Post #315 - September 23rd, 2020, 1:55 pm
    tazerowe wrote:Does anyone have an update on Chinatown dining? I am craving Dim Sum. We did take out in the park from Dolo a bit back, and it was OK, but is anyone doing outside dining or the like? Even non-dim sum - I need some variety.

    Article from July = https://www.theinfatuation.com/chicago/ ... -chinatown
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #316 - September 23rd, 2020, 7:09 pm
    Post #316 - September 23rd, 2020, 7:09 pm Post #316 - September 23rd, 2020, 7:09 pm
    Katie wrote:
    MarlaCollins'Husband wrote:Taqueria El Milagro has conquered the pandemic. Each table is surrounded by plexiglass walls that, along with the tables and chairs, are sprayed and wiped between diners.

    Image
    Seems like the Illinois Restaurant Association should spend more of its time encouraging members to implement a system like this rather than focusing on lobbying for life-risking expansions of the number of patrons allowed in restaurants.

    I'm no expert, but personally I wonder if that's actually a bad idea or at best ineffective. If you think the virus is spread primarily or solely by droplets (big and heavy enough to fall to the ground within a few feet), okay, obstruct droplet spray and wipe surfaces down. If, on the other hand, you think the virus is spread primarily by aerosol particles (small and light enough to float around like cigarette smoke), then all those plexiglass sheets would seem to inhibit the ventilation needed for clear the air sufficiently.


    Despite the CDC pulling back their recommendation, the scientific consensus seems to be that it can become aerosolized. I won't dine in a restaurant (or in crowded outdoor dining) until there's mass vaccination or widespread rapid testing that shrinks cases to minuscule numbers. Unfortunately, I think the winter is going to kill the majority of restaurants unless they can survive on carry-out and delivery.
  • Post #317 - September 24th, 2020, 6:52 am
    Post #317 - September 24th, 2020, 6:52 am Post #317 - September 24th, 2020, 6:52 am
    Indiana Restaurants and Bars Get Green Light to Open at Full Capacity. Gov. Eric Holcomb announced that the state is moving into Stage 5 of reopening this Saturday.

    https://www.eater.com/2020/9/23/2145322 ... l-capacity
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #318 - September 26th, 2020, 7:33 am
    Post #318 - September 26th, 2020, 7:33 am Post #318 - September 26th, 2020, 7:33 am
    After A Brutal Summer, Restaurants Worry About How Much Worse The Winter Will Be During summer, a good day for some restaurants meant making just 30% of pre-pandemic sales. Winter could force a cascade of closings.

    https://www.wbez.org/stories/after-a-br ... =WBEZEmail
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #319 - September 28th, 2020, 8:45 am
    Post #319 - September 28th, 2020, 8:45 am Post #319 - September 28th, 2020, 8:45 am
    Chef partnerships becoming more common during COVID-19 pandemic as pros adapt to survive

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #320 - September 28th, 2020, 10:43 am
    Post #320 - September 28th, 2020, 10:43 am Post #320 - September 28th, 2020, 10:43 am
    If you want to keep your staff, especially key personnel, equity is the way.
    "In pursuit of joys untasted"
    from Giuseppe Verdi's La Traviata
  • Post #321 - September 28th, 2020, 12:07 pm
    Post #321 - September 28th, 2020, 12:07 pm Post #321 - September 28th, 2020, 12:07 pm
    Chicago bars that don’t serve food will be allowed to reopen for indoor service starting Thursday, and bars and restaurants will be allowed to serve alcohol until 1 a.m., Mayor Lori Lightfoot announced Monday.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... AP0_4-MxWA
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #322 - September 28th, 2020, 1:08 pm
    Post #322 - September 28th, 2020, 1:08 pm Post #322 - September 28th, 2020, 1:08 pm
    Dave148 wrote:
    Chicago bars that don’t serve food will be allowed to reopen for indoor service starting Thursday, and bars and restaurants will be allowed to serve alcohol until 1 a.m., Mayor Lori Lightfoot announced Monday.


    Also the capacity allowed is 40 percent. Maybe this will help too.

    But OTOH; I am skeptical of the public health aspect of this. This looks like a response to pressure from Bar owners economic plight. Almost all substantial spreading events all over the world have been traced to indoor spaces with forced air circulation, poor ventilation, combined with lack of distancing, non-masked patrons etc. Bars are a lot more difficult kind of space to handle the combination of distancing requirement and the mask wearing requirement, I feel. Especially if they are playing loud music and people are leaning into each other's face to talk loud.
  • Post #323 - October 2nd, 2020, 2:41 pm
    Post #323 - October 2nd, 2020, 2:41 pm Post #323 - October 2nd, 2020, 2:41 pm
    I guessss the timing could be worse but who knows.

    "Tour Nobu Chicago, Finally Open on Randolph Restaurant Row
    De Niro’s made Chicago wait a little bit, a little bit."
    "Now seven years later, Nobu finds itself searching for relevancy as the pandemic has rewritten the rules for restaurants since March."

    https://chicago.eater.com/2020/10/2/21498585/nobu-chicago-deniro-open-west-loop-japanese-photos-images
  • Post #324 - October 7th, 2020, 12:41 pm
    Post #324 - October 7th, 2020, 12:41 pm Post #324 - October 7th, 2020, 12:41 pm
    Ruby Tuesday files for bankruptcy = https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/07/business ... index.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #325 - October 7th, 2020, 5:37 pm
    Post #325 - October 7th, 2020, 5:37 pm Post #325 - October 7th, 2020, 5:37 pm
    Dave148 wrote:Ruby Tuesday files for bankruptcy = https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/07/business ... index.html

    I don’t think that there are any Ruby Tuesdays left in the Chicago area.
  • Post #326 - October 7th, 2020, 8:27 pm
    Post #326 - October 7th, 2020, 8:27 pm Post #326 - October 7th, 2020, 8:27 pm
    The Purple Pig employees protest over concerns of coronavirus safety negligence

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #327 - October 9th, 2020, 10:21 am
    Post #327 - October 9th, 2020, 10:21 am Post #327 - October 9th, 2020, 10:21 am
    https://chicago.eater.com/2020/10/8/215 ... challenges

    "Chicago’s Winter Dining Challenge Winners Announced, Restaurateurs Remain Skeptical
    Who’s going to pay to heat these cabins?"
    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_ ... Cabins.png

    I think the more important question is, who is going to sit in them? But I do appreciate the attempt at innovation and more importantly that they are looking at short term solutions, because if things continue as they are how many restaurants will not survive this winter.
  • Post #328 - October 17th, 2020, 6:58 am
    Post #328 - October 17th, 2020, 6:58 am Post #328 - October 17th, 2020, 6:58 am
    West Loop Food Hall Politan Row ‘Hibernating’ Until Spring

    https://chicago.eater.com/2020/10/16/21 ... sed-spring
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #329 - October 20th, 2020, 12:46 pm
    Post #329 - October 20th, 2020, 12:46 pm Post #329 - October 20th, 2020, 12:46 pm
    The state is set to roll back reopening restrictions across a wide swath of suburban Chicago later this week as Illinois continues to see a major resurgence of the coronavirus. Gov. J.B. Pritzker is expected to announce Tuesday afternoon that starting later this week, indoor service will be prohibited once again at restaurants and bars in DuPage, Kane, Will and Kankakee counties, an area that’s home to more than 1 in 6 Illinois residents.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #330 - October 22nd, 2020, 1:00 pm
    Post #330 - October 22nd, 2020, 1:00 pm Post #330 - October 22nd, 2020, 1:00 pm
    Mayor Lori Lightfoot imposes 10:00 p.m. curfew on city bars, restaurants and nonessential businesses

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... 8#nws=true
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard

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