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  • Post #241 - July 30th, 2020, 1:21 pm
    Post #241 - July 30th, 2020, 1:21 pm Post #241 - July 30th, 2020, 1:21 pm
    Lunch with the Bride at Cafe Selmarie outdoor dining. Felt good to get out among people, even if socially distanced.

    Tasty sandwich, birds chirping, kids playing, pretty girls dancing the polka, old folks shuffling along, even a bonus crazy person holding up an empty vinyl record cover screaming about, actually not sure what he was screaming about, though he was quite upset. :)

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  • Post #242 - July 30th, 2020, 2:31 pm
    Post #242 - July 30th, 2020, 2:31 pm Post #242 - July 30th, 2020, 2:31 pm
    California Pizza Kitchen Files for Bankruptcy Because of Coronavirus
    https://la.eater.com/2020/7/30/21348457 ... osing-news
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #243 - July 30th, 2020, 7:44 pm
    Post #243 - July 30th, 2020, 7:44 pm Post #243 - July 30th, 2020, 7:44 pm
    G Wiv wrote:Lunch with the Bride at Cafe Selmarie outdoor dining. Felt good to get out among people, even if socially distanced.

    Tasty sandwich, birds chirping, kids playing, pretty girls dancing the polka, old folks shuffling along, even a bonus crazy person holding up an empty vinyl record cover screaming about, actually not sure what he was screaming about, though he was quite upset. :)

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    I've always enjoyed the outdoor seating scene at Selmarie. Right off the Square full of families, Eastern Europeans, random characters, a Lombard Lamp, and a cool fountain. The food and bakery ain't too bad either.
  • Post #244 - July 31st, 2020, 4:19 pm
    Post #244 - July 31st, 2020, 4:19 pm Post #244 - July 31st, 2020, 4:19 pm
    Chicago bars now can add outdoor service on sidewalks, if they partner with a restaurant to provide food
    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #245 - August 6th, 2020, 4:18 pm
    Post #245 - August 6th, 2020, 4:18 pm Post #245 - August 6th, 2020, 4:18 pm
    N Wells St between Huron and Superior and N Clark St between Grand and Kinzie will both be closed this weekend to expand outdoor dining options.
    Additionally, lakefront restaurants are permitted to reopen including The Dock at Montrose Beach, Caffe Olivia at Ohio St Beach and Reggie's at 63rd St Beach.

    Source: https://do312.com/p/chicago-covid-19-up ... tions-more
  • Post #246 - August 6th, 2020, 10:04 pm
    Post #246 - August 6th, 2020, 10:04 pm Post #246 - August 6th, 2020, 10:04 pm
    This NY Times opinion piece is from April, but it seems to still be relevant. I paged through this thread from the beginning but didn't see it mentioned; sorry if it was and I missed it.

    Is My Takeout Risking Lives or Saving Restaurants?
    Last edited by Katie on August 7th, 2020, 7:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #247 - August 7th, 2020, 4:22 am
    Post #247 - August 7th, 2020, 4:22 am Post #247 - August 7th, 2020, 4:22 am
    Katie wrote:This NY Times opinion pieces is from April, but it seems to still be relevant. I paged through this thread from the beginning but didn't see it mentioned; sorry if it was and I missed it.

    Is My Takeout Risking Lives or Saving Restaurants?


    I think about this almost every day and I don't have an answer. I've never eaten at Calumet fisheries, and I'm still bummed that the store manager died from covid. He was only 41. I don't know how he contracted it, but he may have died so a business could stay open.

    The more I think about it, the more I believe we should go on a hardcore lockdown for 8 to 12 weeks. Suspend mortgages, rent, utilities. Shut down everything except the absolutely essential. Extremely limit leaving the house, and ticket anyone who violates the order.

    What we're doing now is taking half a dose of medicine. Half a dose still tastes like shit, and the only thing it does is make you sick of the medicine.

    What we're doing now: masks but not all the time; sort of social distancing but not really; etc. It's all half assed and it ain't enough.

    We need to suck it up, take our full dose, and knock this fucker out (and maybe that wouldn't even work. I don't know. But I'm very frustrated with the status quo).
  • Post #248 - August 7th, 2020, 7:36 am
    Post #248 - August 7th, 2020, 7:36 am Post #248 - August 7th, 2020, 7:36 am
    OK, so you knock most of it down. Then people will travel from other countries and bring it back, or it will linger somewhere and re-appear and grow in the same patterns. If you do what you said, then when that time-frame is over you have to strictly control who enters the country, preferably nobody as the risk of bringing it back is extremely high. Very tough situation but no real answers. It all goes back to if you are afraid, stay isolated. If you are not, have respect for others.
  • Post #249 - August 7th, 2020, 9:47 am
    Post #249 - August 7th, 2020, 9:47 am Post #249 - August 7th, 2020, 9:47 am
    Restaurants lobby Congress for $120 billion "lifeline" as thousands face permanent closure

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-r ... -industry/
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #250 - August 7th, 2020, 10:48 am
    Post #250 - August 7th, 2020, 10:48 am Post #250 - August 7th, 2020, 10:48 am
    They were saying on CNN last night that only 55% of Americans are wearing masks. If 95% of them started wearing masks we could save 70,000 lives by the end of the year.
  • Post #251 - August 7th, 2020, 12:27 pm
    Post #251 - August 7th, 2020, 12:27 pm Post #251 - August 7th, 2020, 12:27 pm
    If we all wore masks and stayed tight we probably could. But what about the next year and the year after that............. If that is life, many people won't buy in. If we have to live in hiding then why live. Masks and hiding are short term answers. Not so simple long term.
  • Post #252 - August 7th, 2020, 1:51 pm
    Post #252 - August 7th, 2020, 1:51 pm Post #252 - August 7th, 2020, 1:51 pm
    Puckjam wrote:If we have to live in hiding then why live. Masks and hiding are short term answers.

    Distancing is not hiding. We just had friends over and we sat outside, 10 feet apart. Yesterday we went to the grocery store, masked. We're doing only low-risk activities and we're not hiding at all.
  • Post #253 - August 7th, 2020, 6:27 pm
    Post #253 - August 7th, 2020, 6:27 pm Post #253 - August 7th, 2020, 6:27 pm
    Mask wearing has been embraced long term in several Asian countries since the respiratory epidemics earlier this century.

    Yes, you might have to wear in mask in public longer than the six to eight weeks that someone deluded you into thinking this crisis would last.

    Yes, masks aren't fun.

    Yes, you are a traitor to your species if you think we should just reopen everything full stop and allow people to choose to go mask-less in public because this crisis isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
  • Post #254 - August 7th, 2020, 10:27 pm
    Post #254 - August 7th, 2020, 10:27 pm Post #254 - August 7th, 2020, 10:27 pm
    Mask-wearing debate aside, and just to nudge us back toward the specific topic of restaurants a bit---the point of the opinion essay I posted a link to was whether or not we are putting restaurant employees at risk by expecting them to cater to our carryout desires. I don't have an answer to that difficult question any more than the author of the opinion does. It does occur to me though that if we were all so sincerely motivated by a desire solely to keep our local restaurants in business, without putting their employees at risk, we could be buying gift certificates from them rather than carryout.
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #255 - August 8th, 2020, 6:31 am
    Post #255 - August 8th, 2020, 6:31 am Post #255 - August 8th, 2020, 6:31 am
    “...whether or not we are putting restaurant employees at risk by expecting them to cater to our carryout desires.”

    Absolutely yes along with Instacart shopping and such.

    Bottom line is everybody has to do what they need to do. But please be clear-eyed about risk and who is assuming or off-loading it. Personally, we choose to share the risk. We patronize restaurants in person when we can to help them stay in business and waitstaff employed. We also do our own shopping. Our assessment is that the risk is quite small to us but the risk of permanent or long-term damage to the economy and most people’s well-being is large.


    Full disclosure: healthy but over 65 and long-time former resident of Chicago.
    Coming to you from Leiper's Fork, TN where we prefer forking to spooning.
  • Post #256 - August 8th, 2020, 8:48 am
    Post #256 - August 8th, 2020, 8:48 am Post #256 - August 8th, 2020, 8:48 am
    Puckjam wrote:If we all wore masks and stayed tight we probably could. But what about the next year and the year after that............. If that is life, many people won't buy in. If we have to live in hiding then why live. Masks and hiding are short term answers. Not so simple long term.

    By next year we should have vaccines. It may require yearly boosters, the first ones out the gate may or may not be as effective, but if we can get 70-90% of the people immune at any given time it should be enough to stop outbreaks from spreading.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
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  • Post #257 - August 11th, 2020, 1:45 pm
    Post #257 - August 11th, 2020, 1:45 pm Post #257 - August 11th, 2020, 1:45 pm
    How Chicago chefs, even Michelin-starred ones, are embracing the walk-up window during pandemic

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/c ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #258 - August 12th, 2020, 9:34 am
    Post #258 - August 12th, 2020, 9:34 am Post #258 - August 12th, 2020, 9:34 am
    Data from states and cities show that many community outbreaks of the coronavirus this summer have centered on restaurants and bars, often the largest settings to infect Americans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/12/health/Covid-restaurants-bars.html
  • Post #259 - August 12th, 2020, 3:55 pm
    Post #259 - August 12th, 2020, 3:55 pm Post #259 - August 12th, 2020, 3:55 pm
    Dining with heaters, blankets and plastic domes? With more than 5,000 Illinois restaurants predicted to close, extending patio season may be crucial

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... rtbeat-flt
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #260 - August 13th, 2020, 1:57 pm
    Post #260 - August 13th, 2020, 1:57 pm Post #260 - August 13th, 2020, 1:57 pm
    Two restaurant employee relief funds offering Chicagoans millions of dollars in aid

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #261 - August 13th, 2020, 2:33 pm
    Post #261 - August 13th, 2020, 2:33 pm Post #261 - August 13th, 2020, 2:33 pm
    Want to go out for dinner? How about if the government pays half your bill? In Britain, it does.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/c ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #262 - August 15th, 2020, 7:43 am
    Post #262 - August 15th, 2020, 7:43 am Post #262 - August 15th, 2020, 7:43 am
    4 Classic Chicago Food Spots Still Thriving During The Pandemic “The lines just got longer during the pandemic,” said one owner. “People want something they can’t make at home.”

    https://www.wbez.org/stories/four-class ... s_20200815
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #263 - August 16th, 2020, 11:06 am
    Post #263 - August 16th, 2020, 11:06 am Post #263 - August 16th, 2020, 11:06 am
    Etta Staffers Test Positive For Coronavirus, But Restaurant Owner Says Closing Is Not An Option


    https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/08/14/etta-staffers-test-positive-for-coronavirus-but-restaurant-owner-says-closing-is-not-an-option/
  • Post #264 - August 16th, 2020, 5:34 pm
    Post #264 - August 16th, 2020, 5:34 pm Post #264 - August 16th, 2020, 5:34 pm
    Sounds about right for Etta’s ownership group. When I visited Maple & Ash in June they were freely allowing patrons to violate mask and distancing protocols as if they were in Florida. I’m talking shoulder to shoulder without masks and improperly spaced seating.
  • Post #265 - August 16th, 2020, 7:52 pm
    Post #265 - August 16th, 2020, 7:52 pm Post #265 - August 16th, 2020, 7:52 pm
    scottsol wrote:Sounds about right for Etta’s ownership group. When I visited Maple & Ash in June they were freely allowing patrons to violate mask and distancing protocols as if they were in Florida. I’m talking shoulder to shoulder without masks and improperly spaced seating.


    Had a similar experience. Went to etta in June on a weekday when outdoor seating was allowed again. Got a patio reservation and they definitely sat us inside on the 2nd floor, which was uncomfortably crowded.

    I'll never go back to etta but at least it gave me a nice wake up call about the current conditions. Easy for me to do, but sucks that employees were stuck dealing w things like this
  • Post #266 - August 21st, 2020, 6:47 am
    Post #266 - August 21st, 2020, 6:47 am Post #266 - August 21st, 2020, 6:47 am
    Empty downtown office buildings force fast-casual restaurant chains to shrink menus, look to neighborhoods for customers

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/business ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #267 - August 21st, 2020, 11:17 am
    Post #267 - August 21st, 2020, 11:17 am Post #267 - August 21st, 2020, 11:17 am
    Here is a report from the western suburbs of places I have eaten. All are COVID precaution compliant. I have been updating YELP questions on COVID compliance on their website so people can see what is going on at the restaurant.
    Riverside, IL - We have eaten at Mollies Irish Pub and the Chew Chew in downtown Riverside. Both have patios, proper mask and social distancing policy and sanitation. Felt very safe eating there, light breezes in the evening provide good dispersal of anything in the air.
    Carol Stream, IL - Burrito Parilla - They offer drive through window and a patio now, also inside dining (nobody doing it when we visited). Plexiglass screen and masks where orders were taken. Appropriate mask policy, social distancing, and sanitation.
    Wheaton, Il- Hen House on College avenue. They have a lovely walled patio with proper COVID procedures. Have eaten here with confidence.
    Lisle, IL - Apolis Street food, have appropriate social distancing and Covid procedures as well as a few tables out side.
    I will note that City of Wheaton has blocked off part of Hale Street and put up a tent. The restaurants there are the Ivy, Altiro Fusion, Burger Social, Hale Street Cantina, and Moveable Feast. They are also offering live music. We have not gone there yet but its gotten high reviews. Wheaton also has Adelles (patio), Steamboat BBQ (pickup) and Suzettes Creperie (patio) and 302 Wheaton (patio) so we are fairly flush with places to eat outdoors. Unfortunately all of this will come to a crashing halt in October when the weather will get too cold. Enjoy while you can if you are in the area, I believe these are safe environments to eat in.
    Toria

    "I like this place and willingly could waste my time in it" - As You Like It,
    W. Shakespeare
  • Post #268 - August 21st, 2020, 1:22 pm
    Post #268 - August 21st, 2020, 1:22 pm Post #268 - August 21st, 2020, 1:22 pm
    toria wrote:Here is a report from the western suburbs of places I have eaten. All are COVID precaution compliant. I have been updating YELP questions on COVID compliance on their website so people can see what is going on at the restaurant.
    Riverside, IL - We have eaten at Mollies Irish Pub and the Chew Chew in downtown Riverside. Both have patios, proper mask and social distancing policy and sanitation. Felt very safe eating there, light breezes in the evening provide good dispersal of anything in the air.
    Carol Stream, IL - Burrito Parilla - They offer drive through window and a patio now, also inside dining (nobody doing it when we visited). Plexiglass screen and masks where orders were taken. Appropriate mask policy, social distancing, and sanitation.
    Wheaton, Il- Hen House on College avenue. They have a lovely walled patio with proper COVID procedures. Have eaten here with confidence.
    Lisle, IL - Apolis Street food, have appropriate social distancing and Covid procedures as well as a few tables out side.
    I will note that City of Wheaton has blocked off part of Hale Street and put up a tent. The restaurants there are the Ivy, Altiro Fusion, Burger Social, Hale Street Cantina, and Moveable Feast. They are also offering live music. We have not gone there yet but its gotten high reviews. Wheaton also has Adelles (patio), Steamboat BBQ (pickup) and Suzettes Creperie (patio) and 302 Wheaton (patio) so we are fairly flush with places to eat outdoors. Unfortunately all of this will come to a crashing halt in October when the weather will get too cold. Enjoy while you can if you are in the area, I believe these are safe environments to eat in.


    I can add a few, since I live in Lisle:
    Legends Bar and Grill -Big outdoor tent that has a full bar, and bar food that is next to:
    Ike and Oak Brewery-Obviously craft brew, seltzers and wine and has creative pizza and burgers
    Traverso's-Naper/Plainfield Rd.: Big outdoor tent, good Italian and pizza
    Red Arrow Tap Room, downtown Naperville has excellent spaced tables outdoors, behind the restaurant, the food is good too.
    Honeyjam Cafe (was Butterfields) on Ogden/Naperville rd.-Big outdoor tent with breakfast/lunch items.
  • Post #269 - August 22nd, 2020, 6:50 pm
    Post #269 - August 22nd, 2020, 6:50 pm Post #269 - August 22nd, 2020, 6:50 pm
    Madison-area coffee shop loses lease, will close after declaring itself a ‘mask-free zone'

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/midwest/ ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #270 - August 22nd, 2020, 11:06 pm
    Post #270 - August 22nd, 2020, 11:06 pm Post #270 - August 22nd, 2020, 11:06 pm
    Hi- Has anybody been to any of the art fairs so far this summer. I was wondering if restaurants are selling food at any of these? I assumed that they would not take place, but then I ran across the website a few weeks ago for the people that put on the Port Clinton Square Art Fair and several others including one that is taking place this weekend in Evanston. Normally for the Evanston one you would see signs on Ridge Ave. telling you that the art fair was taking place that weekend, and that parking in downtown Evanston would be limited. This year there were no warning signs, but when I walked to the farmer's market this morning, I noticed that there were some tents set up on Church.

    Apparently they are trying to limit the crowds to allow social distancing, and you can sign up for a VIP pass which costs you $10, and allows you to come and go all day. You can still see it for free, but you must reserve a time spot. Most of the free time spots tomorrow are already taken. It sounds like the Port Clinton art fair is going to be a similar set up. They are also limiting the number of artists too.

    Everybody has to wear a mask and social distance at the art fair. Normally I love to go to art fairs, but if they are not going to have music or food there I will probably pass.

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