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  • Post #61 - June 6th, 2020, 4:21 pm
    Post #61 - June 6th, 2020, 4:21 pm Post #61 - June 6th, 2020, 4:21 pm
    Ok, this tangent is becoming a vortex. Can we please try to steer it back to Restaurants/bars - post Covid-19?

    Thanks,

    =R=
    for LTH
    Same planet, different world
  • Post #62 - June 8th, 2020, 1:27 pm
    Post #62 - June 8th, 2020, 1:27 pm Post #62 - June 8th, 2020, 1:27 pm
    It looks like Gibson’s will be doing things the right way.
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  • Post #63 - June 9th, 2020, 1:43 pm
    Post #63 - June 9th, 2020, 1:43 pm Post #63 - June 9th, 2020, 1:43 pm
    I had my first meal at any restaurant (other than pickup and delivery) on Sunday at Michael's in Highland Park. We walked up and ordered outside, took a table and they brought the food to us. Pretty simple and it felt a little like a normal spring day in doing that. It's not what it used to be since they sold it around 7 years ago but it was fine on a nice day out riding our bicycles.
  • Post #64 - June 10th, 2020, 12:56 pm
    Post #64 - June 10th, 2020, 12:56 pm Post #64 - June 10th, 2020, 12:56 pm
    I am still unsure how and when I will be able to get back to a licensed venue in the metropolitan area.
    Complicating this is three of my favorite beer bars have announced they will not reopen. They were on my regular bookmark page. {All venues serving beer have been shadowed there until such time as this pandemic is deemed ‘manageable.’}
    I am doing this ‘Beer Hero’ scheme. So despite that liquor stores seemed to be targeted by miscreants, including the Foremost outlet closest to the abode here, where I bought a couple of beers three weeks ago :!: (its variety, quality, and selection is lacking - and the manager may be a gyp), I have sufficient packaged beers to hang loose within the confines.
    To be honest, I did not even know about the looting occurring as I had been obeying the prime directive - Stay home. {“Pudgy, it was all over TV.” ~ Do you think I am actually watching any TV these days? :?: When the set is turned on, it is to play one of the Japanese Adult Videos DVDs brought back from there. The list of unviewed ones is in the hundreds, and some are four hours long.}
    My on-line time (still limited to v.92 speed at the abode) is planning trips to small restaurants serving takeout, and determining whether I can ride transit there. I think the next places I want to hit are Mr. D.'s Shish-kabob and Marco's Beef and Pizza. :lol:
    Valuable links for survival, without the monetization attempt: http://74.115.231.54/~pudgym29/bookmark4.html
  • Post #65 - June 10th, 2020, 4:46 pm
    Post #65 - June 10th, 2020, 4:46 pm Post #65 - June 10th, 2020, 4:46 pm
    scottsol wrote:It looks like Gibson’s will be doing things the right way.


    Our experience on 6/30 at the Oak Brook location was stellar.
    Also, they didn't adhere to their stated "two hour limit" at all.
    We enjoyed a leisurely three hour dinner.
  • Post #66 - June 10th, 2020, 4:53 pm
    Post #66 - June 10th, 2020, 4:53 pm Post #66 - June 10th, 2020, 4:53 pm
    pudgym29 wrote: I think the next places I want to hit are Mr. D.'s Shish-kabob and Marco's Beef and Pizza. :lol:
    The first time I tried both Mr. D's and Marco's was back to back for a big lunch. And both were instant top 10 beef joints for me (great timing as The Original Mr. Beef in Homer Glen closed and another one or two has changed for the worse).
  • Post #67 - June 12th, 2020, 10:55 am
    Post #67 - June 12th, 2020, 10:55 am Post #67 - June 12th, 2020, 10:55 am
    As outdoor dining in Chicago continues into its second weekend, the Lakeview East Chamber of Commerce is taking it a step further through Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s pilot program, with plans to be the first area in the city to shut down a main street for outdoor dining.

    On Friday, from noon until 10 p.m., Broadway will be open only to pedestrians between Belmont Avenue and Diversey Parkway, and again from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Saturday and Sunday.

    The event, dubbed Dine Out on Broadway, will repeat again next weekend.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #68 - June 12th, 2020, 11:22 am
    Post #68 - June 12th, 2020, 11:22 am Post #68 - June 12th, 2020, 11:22 am
    I wish them well with their street closure, but that plan and the 60 tables spread over two blocks lasted 1 day here in Plainfield.

    The other businesses on the block complained that they needed the drive/walk through traffic an open street and parking brought.

    Was good for the restaurants, but not the butcher, the coffee shop, ice cream place, etc.

    So now the parking spaces and sidewalk in from of each restaurant can be converted to "patio" dining with proper distancing of course

    Maybe the fact Broadway isn't doing it daily will help sustain the event through the next phase.
    Bill-Plainfield
  • Post #69 - June 12th, 2020, 11:54 am
    Post #69 - June 12th, 2020, 11:54 am Post #69 - June 12th, 2020, 11:54 am
    So my plan for Friday is, on the bus, to go to Mesa Urbana Dos - take out something from there, and then head for Burning Bush Brwy. and Dovetail Brwy. for the 'Beer Hero' scheme. :)
    Valuable links for survival, without the monetization attempt: http://74.115.231.54/~pudgym29/bookmark4.html
  • Post #70 - June 12th, 2020, 1:28 pm
    Post #70 - June 12th, 2020, 1:28 pm Post #70 - June 12th, 2020, 1:28 pm
    Willkat98 wrote:I wish them well with their street closure, but that plan and the 60 tables spread over two blocks lasted 1 day here in Plainfield.

    Keep in mind, (I'm guessing) most people in Plainfield go to the businesses in their business district by car. Whereas most people going to businesses on Broadway in Lakeview are walking from home in the neighborhood, which is more densely populated than Plainfield. (Not criticizing either one, just drawing the obvious distinction that would make it work better in Lakeview than Plainfield.)
  • Post #71 - June 12th, 2020, 1:30 pm
    Post #71 - June 12th, 2020, 1:30 pm Post #71 - June 12th, 2020, 1:30 pm
    Dave148 wrote:
    On Friday, from noon until 10 p.m., Broadway will be open only to pedestrians between Belmont Avenue and Diversey Parkway, and again from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. Saturday and Sunday.

    The event, dubbed Dine Out on Broadway, will repeat again next weekend.
    So much for carry-out without added hassle from Tom Yum Cafe or Crisp this weekend. No problem, since it may be for the greater good. I hope it warms up though. Too chilly for pure alfresco for me right now based on the temperature in Evanston. Would need to be inside a place with the windows opened. East Lakeview isn't likely to catch higher temps with its proximity to the lake either.
  • Post #72 - June 13th, 2020, 5:12 pm
    Post #72 - June 13th, 2020, 5:12 pm Post #72 - June 13th, 2020, 5:12 pm
    NFriday wrote:I suspect when fast food chains such as McDonalds open up their restaurants, that they will not be allowed to operate the soft drink dispensers, which means that people will not be able to get refills on their soft drinks. Just like all drinking fountains in grocery stores are closed off.


    Here in TN outside of Davidson County where we’ve been back to dining in for a while, from our direct experience they are open for customers to use them. The only difference we’ve noticed is that we are supplied with styrofoam cups instead of washable plastic ones. I can’t speak firsthand to what chain fast food places are doing because we don’t go there.
    Coming to you from Leiper's Fork, TN where we prefer forking to spooning.
  • Post #73 - June 15th, 2020, 1:42 pm
    Post #73 - June 15th, 2020, 1:42 pm Post #73 - June 15th, 2020, 1:42 pm
    Chicago bars and breweries open on Wednesday

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #74 - June 18th, 2020, 6:23 am
    Post #74 - June 18th, 2020, 6:23 am Post #74 - June 18th, 2020, 6:23 am
    Restaurant Workers In Danger: An Open Letter To Mayor Lightfoot and Governor Pritzker

    https://medium.com/@donwoolf/restaurant ... 26eac68022
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #75 - June 19th, 2020, 12:30 pm
    Post #75 - June 19th, 2020, 12:30 pm Post #75 - June 19th, 2020, 12:30 pm
    Indoor dining starts on the 26th = https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #76 - June 19th, 2020, 2:25 pm
    Post #76 - June 19th, 2020, 2:25 pm Post #76 - June 19th, 2020, 2:25 pm
    Dave148 wrote:Indoor dining starts on the 26th = https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html

    Still a hard no from me.
  • Post #77 - June 19th, 2020, 11:22 pm
    Post #77 - June 19th, 2020, 11:22 pm Post #77 - June 19th, 2020, 11:22 pm
    I did something on Friday night that actually surprised myself . . . went out for dinner. Being higher risk, my wife and I grappled all week with whether or not do it. For the most part, we've avoided just about every risky situation over the past 3+ months. Neither of us have been inside a retail store since March 16. But after a lot of discussion, knowing that we'd not only be in good hands at our friends' restaurant but also sitting outside -- and having talked to another friend about his experience earlier in the week -- we decided to go to Prairie Grass Cafe for my wife's birthday dinner . . .

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    Converted Parking Lot "Dining Room"
    An admittedly eerie and surreal scene and yet, without the obvious context, it was a perfectly lovely night. The PGC crew was taking every precaution imaginable. Bottled water at the tables, table settings and napkins wrapped in plastic, single-use disposable menus, all staff wearing masks, customers required to wear masks if they entered the restaurant, generous space between tables, etc. Please keep in mind that I have probably been to PGC over 600 times and the owners are friends. And still, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't feeling slightly uneasy during the experience. Happily, the friendly faces and the great food -- even with a pared down menu -- helped offset the unease.

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    Caesar Salad w/Avocado
    My son's salad.

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    Crispy Brussels Sprouts
    We shared these. I'm addicted to the basil remoulade in this dish.

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    Grilled Chicken Wings
    Pretty unique and always delicious.

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    Seared Ahi Tuna Au Poivre Salad
    We split this special, intended as a main course, as an appetizer. Really nice.

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    Penne Pasta
    My son's order. One of his comfort food faves.

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    Crispy Half Boneless Chicken
    As crispy as advertised and juicy throughout. And you know I love my broccoli! :P

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    Grilled Ora King Salmon
    Luscious, luscious, unctuous fish.

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    Chocolate Pudding
    Perfectly balanced between sweet and bitter.

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    Mom's Strawberry Rhubarb Pie a la Mode
    In the world of pie, it really doesn't get any better than this.

    I never imagined that I'd be bringing love and trust into a discussion at LTH. But honestly, they were a huge part of our deciding to take this step. Without them, I don't think we could have had this experience. We've been friends with the PGC team for so long, that when they pledged that they'd take great care of us, we believed them. Before the meal, I thought that maybe, once we got this one under our belts, we'd be ready to move on to other restaurants. But based on how I'm feeling now, that wasn't the case. For us, this felt safe in a way that I doubt dining at other establishments would right now. I'm not saying that's rational. I'm sure there are plenty of places that are set up well and doing things right. And I believe that eventually, I'll get to them. But for now, baby steps . . . and back to cooking tomorrow.

    =R=
    Same planet, different world
  • Post #78 - June 22nd, 2020, 3:27 pm
    Post #78 - June 22nd, 2020, 3:27 pm Post #78 - June 22nd, 2020, 3:27 pm
    Dave148 wrote:Indoor dining starts on the 26th = https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    I'm not eating in any restaurant until this virus is over. Outside I will, but that's it.
  • Post #79 - June 22nd, 2020, 6:11 pm
    Post #79 - June 22nd, 2020, 6:11 pm Post #79 - June 22nd, 2020, 6:11 pm
    Ram4 wrote:
    Dave148 wrote:Indoor dining starts on the 26th = https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavi ... story.html
    I'm not eating in any restaurant until this virus is over. Outside I will, but that's it.

    Sadly, I agree. Outside feels like JUST the right amount of risk. But inside, even if likely safe, I'd be in my own head the whole time and not enjoying myself. Just have to keep supporting the standbys with generous takeout.
  • Post #80 - June 22nd, 2020, 7:50 pm
    Post #80 - June 22nd, 2020, 7:50 pm Post #80 - June 22nd, 2020, 7:50 pm
    Ram4 wrote:I'm not eating in any restaurant until this virus is over. Outside I will, but that's it.

    Me too.

    Here's the problem. Basically, the chances of contracting the coronavirus from someone depend to a large extent on distance, duration of exposure, and barriers (e.g. masks). People aren't going to be wearing masks while they're eating a meal. You're probably going to be sitting near the people at the next table for an hour or more. Even outside, I'm reluctant if I'm only six feet away (or less) from other diners; 10-12 feet just seems safer to me - and even at that, I think I'm more comfortable doing carryout. Maybe I'll feel differently in a few months, but I doubt it. The risk and benefit just don't make it worth taking the chance, at least not to me.
  • Post #81 - June 23rd, 2020, 9:19 am
    Post #81 - June 23rd, 2020, 9:19 am Post #81 - June 23rd, 2020, 9:19 am
    Here's another take on reasons not to resume dining indoors at restaurants...

    I've discovered that despite some items not traveling well, I actually enjoy taking food home and dining with wines from my well-stocked wine cellar far more than I ever enjoyed paying exorbitant fees for mediocre wines.

    I no longer feel the annoyance I used to feel from paying the 300% plus markups on my favorite beverage. I get to mix and match from my cellar, and I don't need to deal with obsequious waitpersons anymore.

    I have "dropped down" the level of dining I've been consuming - more the likes of Psistaria, Libinais, Prairie Moon and Wholly Frijoles than Alinea or Arcadia. But being able to appreciate those kitchens, and getting excellent wine pairings with those meals, is actually allowing me to enjoy the aggregated experience of these chef's work more than Michelin starred chefs before COVID-19.

    I suspect that folks like me are a real threat to upscale restaurants. I've dialed down, and I'm likely to continue to stay down for a considerable time period.
  • Post #82 - July 10th, 2021, 7:16 am
    Post #82 - July 10th, 2021, 7:16 am Post #82 - July 10th, 2021, 7:16 am
    Eating out costing more as Chicago restaurants emerge from the pandemic — and price hikes may not slow down anytime soon

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/c ... story.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #83 - July 11th, 2021, 5:19 am
    Post #83 - July 11th, 2021, 5:19 am Post #83 - July 11th, 2021, 5:19 am
    As Chicago Reopens, Immigrant Restaurateurs Reflect On An Unprecedented Year.
    https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/07/09 ... nted-year/
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #84 - October 23rd, 2021, 1:24 pm
    Post #84 - October 23rd, 2021, 1:24 pm Post #84 - October 23rd, 2021, 1:24 pm
    I'm not sure we're really post-anything right now but for me, at least at this vaccination-available point in time, bar and restaurant experiences have been relatively dreary and mere shadows of their former selves. I'm trying -- and I'll keep trying -- but there's very little joy or pleasure in it.

    Mostly, the food doesn't seem to be very good or sadly, what it used to be. Beyond that, there are staffing issues, service issues, capacity issues, supply chain issues and all the other issues we've all been experiencing and reading/hearing about.

    I used to look forward to eating out. Bar and restaurant experiences represented a majority of my eating. And, like many of us here, I considered it to be somewhat of a pastime, too. But these days, I can take it or leave it. In fact, there are times I literally dread it. Yes, there are exceptions but it's hard to look forward to an experience that you know in advance is going to be less _________ (fill in the blank) than it used to be.

    I have little doubt that it'll eventually improve from where it is now but I think it's going to take a very long time for things to even come close to getting back to what they used to be. There are just too many obstacles and unresolved issues for things to just snap back. In many ways, the problem-wrought industry was due for a major reckoning and it now seems to be upon us. Perhaps this is ultimately for the best. Either way, we're still a long way from home . . . and home may be gone for good.

    =R=
    Same planet, different world
  • Post #85 - October 23rd, 2021, 2:39 pm
    Post #85 - October 23rd, 2021, 2:39 pm Post #85 - October 23rd, 2021, 2:39 pm
    I am still apprehensive about eating inside, and I would much prefer eating outside, but that is not feasible in Chicago in the winter. On my way back from the Evanston farmer's market today, I walked past Smylie's today, and I noticed that there were two tables occupied on the patio even though it was in the 50's. I see lots of people are willing to eat inside though. The problem is getting enough help to run the restaurant. I just looked at Walker Brother's website, and they are currently open only from 7:00-2:30. I assume it is because they can not get enough help to be open evenings.
  • Post #86 - October 23rd, 2021, 3:30 pm
    Post #86 - October 23rd, 2021, 3:30 pm Post #86 - October 23rd, 2021, 3:30 pm
    We had the Civil War, World War 1, The Great Depression, World War 2 and Covid.

    Anyone who thinks Covid is not in the same category as the first 4 is fooling themselves, in my opinion.

    Covid has affected all aspects of life today and restaurants are clearly not immune.

    I have never in my 67 years been as negative about the future as I am today. Restaurants are a very minor but important aspect of that negativity.

    Thank you for listening.
  • Post #87 - October 23rd, 2021, 3:54 pm
    Post #87 - October 23rd, 2021, 3:54 pm Post #87 - October 23rd, 2021, 3:54 pm
    I ate at NKOB Rosemary on Sunday and it was delicious. I don't like the format. Small plates passed means everyone in a party of five literally gets one or two bites, but those bites were very good. Oh, they liked to use fresh fennel and fronds in a lot of dishes if that matters to you.

    I also had some delicious meals in L.A. last month at Bestia and Bavel. They were glorious settings and glorious food. I got both reservations at the last minute, Bestia was same day and could eat at both places daily if I was in L.A.

    At some point I will get around to posting pics from LA but shockingly, it is a food lovers' town. I don't recall that on my last visit.
    Last edited by pairs4life on October 23rd, 2021, 4:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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  • Post #88 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:23 pm
    Post #88 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:23 pm Post #88 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:23 pm
    pairs4life wrote:LA but shockingly, it is a food lovers' town. I don't recall that on my last visit.
    The problem with LA is not the food. Lived there for 7 yrs (86-93) and ate well @ every level all the time.
    "In pursuit of joys untasted"
    from Giuseppe Verdi's La Traviata
  • Post #89 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:24 pm
    Post #89 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:24 pm Post #89 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:24 pm
    lougord99 wrote:I have never in my 67 years been as negative about the future as I am today. Restaurants are a very minor but important aspect of that negativity.

    Same age and agree.
    "In pursuit of joys untasted"
    from Giuseppe Verdi's La Traviata
  • Post #90 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:37 pm
    Post #90 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:37 pm Post #90 - October 23rd, 2021, 4:37 pm
    So I need to amend that. I was thinking back on life as I was cooking dinner. I realized that when I was 5-7 ( 1959-1961) I was at times unable to fall asleep at night because I thought the world would soon come to an end with a nuclear war.

    I do not now think think the world is coming to an end in my lifetime.

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