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  • Post #31 - May 30th, 2020, 6:10 pm
    Post #31 - May 30th, 2020, 6:10 pm Post #31 - May 30th, 2020, 6:10 pm
    Rene G wrote:It's sad, but I've come to regard humans as large disease-ridden sacs, constantly spewing droplets of virus-laden spit and mucus in every direction, to be avoided whenever possible.

    It just about makes one what to shout and run to the hills to become a hermit farmer monk. Self-sufficient in every way wanting no more than a simple meal and time to contemplate the Bible.

    I will try to push this idea out of my brain and bravely walk among our fellow man.

    Regards,
    Cathy2

    P.S. In a grocery store parking lot today, I saw about six people in lawn chairs who were socially distanced and having a conversation. It gave me hope.
    Cathy2

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  • Post #32 - May 31st, 2020, 8:21 pm
    Post #32 - May 31st, 2020, 8:21 pm Post #32 - May 31st, 2020, 8:21 pm
    lougord99 wrote:I would like to understand how I am spewing bioaerosols when I am wearing a mask. Until someone convinces me otherwise about my spewing aerosols, I am passing you in the grocery store if you are studying the shelf.

    The gold standard N95 masks? 95 means it screens out 95% of particles. Homemade cloth masks are more like 40-70%.
    Both people wearing cloth masks, that's 9-36% still getting through.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #33 - June 1st, 2020, 12:02 am
    Post #33 - June 1st, 2020, 12:02 am Post #33 - June 1st, 2020, 12:02 am
    lougord99 wrote:I would like to understand how I am spewing bioaerosols when I am wearing a mask. Until someone convinces me otherwise about my spewing aerosols, I am passing you in the grocery store if you are studying the shelf.


    The following graphic from
    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/ ... c6197.full

    illustrates the presence of (reduced) aerosol particle release when masked.

    F1.large.jpg


    --
    edc
  • Post #34 - June 2nd, 2020, 1:59 pm
    Post #34 - June 2nd, 2020, 1:59 pm Post #34 - June 2nd, 2020, 1:59 pm
    I had to see my dentist at the Carlson building across from the Evanston library. I was originally supposed to see her on 4/2, but it got delayed twice. I went to Whole Foods down the street after wards, and there were more customers there than I thought there would be, and they were out of some of the stuff I wanted. They only had WF AP flour and organic flour, and they were out of yeast. They did have California garlic though. The sign said it was $4.99 a pound, and it was from California, but I assume it was conventional. I did not see any organic garlic there, but when I went to check out the guy rang it up as organic, which is only $3.99 a pound, and I got two large heads of garlic for $1.08. This hopefully should last me until I can get some garlic at the farmer's market in a few months.
  • Post #35 - June 2nd, 2020, 7:18 pm
    Post #35 - June 2nd, 2020, 7:18 pm Post #35 - June 2nd, 2020, 7:18 pm
    2 heads of garlic in a couple of months ?

    I will typically use a head a week, if not more.
  • Post #36 - June 2nd, 2020, 7:27 pm
    Post #36 - June 2nd, 2020, 7:27 pm Post #36 - June 2nd, 2020, 7:27 pm
    lougord99 wrote:I will typically use a head a week, if not more.

    More like head of garlic a meal for me. :)
    Hold my beer . . .

    Low & Slow
  • Post #37 - June 2nd, 2020, 8:32 pm
    Post #37 - June 2nd, 2020, 8:32 pm Post #37 - June 2nd, 2020, 8:32 pm
    G Wiv wrote:More like head of garlic a meal for me. :)
    That explains why it's been so rare to see vampires flocking around you.
  • Post #38 - June 4th, 2020, 12:49 pm
    Post #38 - June 4th, 2020, 12:49 pm Post #38 - June 4th, 2020, 12:49 pm
    I was just at the Wilmette Jewel on Green Bay, and all of Jewel's stores are now open 6:00am-midnight. The cashier told me that business has increased, and they decided they needed to be open more hours. Now I am going to go shopping at Jewel in the evening. It seems like the grocery stores in general have been busier lately. Maybe it is because people ran out of all of the stuff they bought in March when they did all the hoarding. I was in Whole Foods in downtown Evanston yesterday too, and it seemed like they were more crowded.

    One thing I have noticed is that the Chicago Avenue Jewel in Evanston keeps track of how many people enter the store so they can limit the number of people in the store, and the Wilmette store does not. When I was leaving the Chicago Ave. store last week at 8:00 pm, they had a line of people waiting to get into the store.

    Maybe not as many people are using delivery or doing curbside pick up too.
  • Post #39 - June 4th, 2020, 12:57 pm
    Post #39 - June 4th, 2020, 12:57 pm Post #39 - June 4th, 2020, 12:57 pm
    NFriday wrote:I was just at the Wilmette Jewel on Green Bay, and all of Jewel's stores are now open 6:00am-midnight. The cashier told me that business has increased, and they decided they needed to be open more hours. Now I am going to go shopping at Jewel in the evening.
    I live a couple blocks away and shoot over around 6.30pm often on weeknights. It's never been crowded or a hassle throughout this. Weekend afternoons is when they're swamped. It's a really good store for alcohol. Lower taxes than Evanston with no reduction in selection. I just don't buy their meat, fish or poultry because Fresh Farms has them so thoroughly beat on that.
  • Post #40 - June 4th, 2020, 1:57 pm
    Post #40 - June 4th, 2020, 1:57 pm Post #40 - June 4th, 2020, 1:57 pm
    I've noticed that the Wilmette store sells a lot more alcohol than the Chicago Ave. store. I am not a beer lover, and I don't buy a lot of wine. The only meat I buy at Jewel is salmon burgers and chicken sausage when they are on sale. They had Amylu sausage B1G1F last month. I love their chicken sausage. I would have bought more but it all had a short expiration date. I don't do factory farmed meat, and I don't eat much red meat, and so I buy my chicken at whole foods when I do buy it, which is not very often. I still have some frozen gulf shrimp I bought at Aldi's before the pandemic that I need to use up.
  • Post #41 - June 5th, 2020, 5:46 am
    Post #41 - June 5th, 2020, 5:46 am Post #41 - June 5th, 2020, 5:46 am
    The Farmers of Instagram
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/opin ... ticleShare
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #42 - June 5th, 2020, 1:56 pm
    Post #42 - June 5th, 2020, 1:56 pm Post #42 - June 5th, 2020, 1:56 pm
    NFriday wrote:Has anybody been to Heinen's or Sunset yet? I am wondering how they are handling COVID?

    We go to Heinen's in Glenview roughly once a week, usually early afternoon on weekdays. There are markings outside for six-foot intervals for people lined up waiting to enter the store, but at the times we go, we've never seen anyone waiting. Someone at the entrance checks for the required masks. Their aisles are fairly wide; the only ones where one-way markings seem to matter are the last two freezer aisles, at the end of which there is hand sanitizer and you wait for someone to direct you to one of the cashiers. They have plexiglass barriers between customers and cashiers.
  • Post #43 - June 7th, 2020, 12:20 pm
    Post #43 - June 7th, 2020, 12:20 pm Post #43 - June 7th, 2020, 12:20 pm
    Mariano's 5353 N Elston Ave, all boarded up and no place to throw.

    MarianosElstonBoarded1.jpg Mariano's 5353 N Elston

    MarianosElstonBoarded3.jpg Mariano's 5353 N Elston


    Open, moderately stocked, windows boarded in case some numb-nuts has evil intent toward tomatoes.
    Hold my beer . . .

    Low & Slow
  • Post #44 - June 7th, 2020, 1:02 pm
    Post #44 - June 7th, 2020, 1:02 pm Post #44 - June 7th, 2020, 1:02 pm
    G Wiv wrote:Mariano's 5353 N Elston Ave, all boarded up and no place to throw.

    MarianosElstonBoarded1.jpg

    MarianosElstonBoarded3.jpg


    Open, moderately stocked, windows boarded in case some numb-nuts has evil intent toward tomatoes.


    Same at New City Mariano's, all first floor windows are boarded up. Only way to enter is through the second floor doors or the first floor doors located inside the parking garage. Parkig garage was free as of Thursday. Jewel on Division and Sedgwick was boarded up as well. Good selection of flours (including KA AP and bread) but canned tomato selection was lacking.
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  • Post #45 - June 8th, 2020, 4:18 pm
    Post #45 - June 8th, 2020, 4:18 pm Post #45 - June 8th, 2020, 4:18 pm
    Hi- Concerning Walmart, their Skokie store and both of their Niles stores are temporarily open only 9:00-5:00, and most of their Chicago stores are currently closed. They are worried about looting. This is even though their website says that both their Skokie and Niles stores are open until 8:30. I even got an email today about a pickup that I ordered on line yesterday, and they emailed me at 11:30 this morning telling me that I could pick up my potting soil, and they were open for pickup from 8:00-8:00. I called up the store, and found out that they are still only open from 9:00-5:00, and yes there is a line to get into the store. I am not a big Walmart lover.
  • Post #46 - June 8th, 2020, 4:57 pm
    Post #46 - June 8th, 2020, 4:57 pm Post #46 - June 8th, 2020, 4:57 pm
    My better half was in Mariano's on Broadway this afternoon, and saw a customer, an older gent, not wearing a mask. (She described him as Farmer Brown because of his bib overalls.) I don't think every customer should necessarily know that masks are required, or be wrestled to the ground for not wearing one. I do think store management ought not to let customers without masks gain admittance, and ought not to stand idly by as unmasked customers roam around the store. Management at this Mariano's is falling down on the job.
    Pithy quote here.
  • Post #47 - June 8th, 2020, 5:33 pm
    Post #47 - June 8th, 2020, 5:33 pm Post #47 - June 8th, 2020, 5:33 pm
    G Wiv wrote:Mariano's 5353 N Elston Ave, all boarded up and no place to throw.
    The Shop & Save across from Superdawg is also boarded up. While driving there this weekend, I noticed the liquor stores on Milwaukee/Central & Milw/Bryn Mawr were, too.
  • Post #48 - June 8th, 2020, 8:25 pm
    Post #48 - June 8th, 2020, 8:25 pm Post #48 - June 8th, 2020, 8:25 pm
    BrendanR wrote:
    G Wiv wrote:Mariano's 5353 N Elston Ave, all boarded up and no place to throw.
    The Shop & Save across from Superdawg is also boarded up. While driving there this weekend, I noticed the liquor stores on Milwaukee/Central & Milw/Bryn Mawr were, too.

    A Shop and Save store branded as Local Market located at 71st and Jeffery was damaged last week. I have heard some of the neighbors came to the defense of this six-month old store. At the boarded up Shop and Save near Midway, they indicated at a minimum there was window damage at Local Market.

    Jewel on the southside was hit, then Jewel donated a million dollars to a fund to help looted and damaged businesses.

    Mayor Lightfoot has been asking stores like Walmart to stay in Chicago according to local news.

    Somehow there is this belief insurance will cover all this mayhem and shops will return.

    I remember reading about people entering second marriages that may apply here: The triumph of hope over experience.
    Cathy2

    "You'll be remembered long after you're dead if you make good gravy, mashed potatoes and biscuits." -- Nathalie Dupree
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  • Post #49 - June 11th, 2020, 12:42 pm
    Post #49 - June 11th, 2020, 12:42 pm Post #49 - June 11th, 2020, 12:42 pm
    Hi- Home Depot has a one day sale today, 6/11 on smokers and grills and accessories. BTW- Because of COVID, Home Depot is only open until 8:00pm. Here is the link.

    https://www.homedepot.com/SpecialBuy/Sp ... 1XRrUHTU80
  • Post #50 - June 11th, 2020, 3:56 pm
    Post #50 - June 11th, 2020, 3:56 pm Post #50 - June 11th, 2020, 3:56 pm
    Hi,

    Woodman's in Buffalo Grove has finally taken down the roped lines feeding people into self-serve or cashier-served lines. The signage is still on the floor, so it could easily be re-established.

    Store hours are still 7 am to 10 pm.

    There is a lot more traffic on the roads. The days of clear sailing are behind us.

    Regards,
    Cathy2
    Cathy2

    "You'll be remembered long after you're dead if you make good gravy, mashed potatoes and biscuits." -- Nathalie Dupree
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  • Post #51 - June 12th, 2020, 4:08 pm
    Post #51 - June 12th, 2020, 4:08 pm Post #51 - June 12th, 2020, 4:08 pm
    I have posted my (very positive) experience of shopping at Kaufman's Deli today, in the topic on Kaufman's. Click here.
  • Post #52 - June 13th, 2020, 9:03 am
    Post #52 - June 13th, 2020, 9:03 am Post #52 - June 13th, 2020, 9:03 am
    It's sad, but I've come to regard humans as large disease-ridden sacs, constantly spewing droplets of virus-laden spit and mucus in every direction, to be avoided whenever possible.

    :(
    What he said
    "If you reject the food, ignore the customs, fear the religion and avoid the people, you might better stay home."
    ~James Michener
  • Post #53 - June 13th, 2020, 7:41 pm
    Post #53 - June 13th, 2020, 7:41 pm Post #53 - June 13th, 2020, 7:41 pm
    BrendanR wrote:
    G Wiv wrote:Mariano's 5353 N Elston Ave, all boarded up and no place to throw.
    The Shop & Save across from Superdawg is also boarded up. While driving there this weekend, I noticed the liquor stores on Milwaukee/Central & Milw/Bryn Mawr were, too.
    This Shop & Save is no longer boarded up. The liquor store next to Superdawg is, though. So is the animal hospital on the same strip as Red Apple, just north.
  • Post #54 - June 19th, 2020, 7:23 am
    Post #54 - June 19th, 2020, 7:23 am Post #54 - June 19th, 2020, 7:23 am
    The Pandemic Shows Us the Genius of Supermarkets

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ource=feed
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #55 - June 19th, 2020, 11:28 am
    Post #55 - June 19th, 2020, 11:28 am Post #55 - June 19th, 2020, 11:28 am
    Dave148 wrote:
    The Pandemic Shows Us the Genius of Supermarkets

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ource=feed


    The problem with supermarkets these days is that the majority of them are run by managers, not merchant. A manager walks around the store making sure that all of the company's planograms are fulfilled to ensure that they capture all of the slotting fees that they are entitled to. A merchant notes that snow is in the forecast and has the staff bringing up the snow shovels, rock salt, and washer fluid up at the front of the store to ensure that customers make those impulse customers. The merchant thinks like a customer and gets more sales.

    Supermarkets purchased by private equity generally don't do well because the investment group is usually more focused on the 50,000 foot view. Customers are more interested in the close up views.

    I live near a Fry's (Krogers) store in an area that is 60% Hispanic and 20% Native American. They do not make a single tortilla but their bakery makes pretzels. Their prep food counters offer no Mexican entrees but carry all the same selections as their Cincinnati test stores. And their prep food sales is negligible (other than fried chicken).
  • Post #56 - June 22nd, 2020, 7:47 am
    Post #56 - June 22nd, 2020, 7:47 am Post #56 - June 22nd, 2020, 7:47 am
    The wholesale market for Cheddar is typically a mild one. But the vagaries of supply and demand during the pandemic have caused sharp swings in cheese prices, which rose to record highs this month — just weeks after plummeting to nearly 20-year lows.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/busi ... rices.html
    Never order barbecue in a place that also serves quiche - Lewis Grizzard
  • Post #57 - June 22nd, 2020, 8:42 am
    Post #57 - June 22nd, 2020, 8:42 am Post #57 - June 22nd, 2020, 8:42 am
    jlawrence01 wrote:The problem with supermarkets these days is that the majority of them are run by managers, not merchant. A manager walks around the store making sure that all of the company's planograms are fulfilled to ensure that they capture all of the slotting fees that they are entitled to. A merchant notes that snow is in the forecast and has the staff bringing up the snow shovels, rock salt, and washer fluid up at the front of the store to ensure that customers make those impulse customers. The merchant thinks like a customer and gets more sales.

    I believe Jewel is not the supermarket monolith it once was. There are no longer advertised sales on television. The sales are customized to the store, where sometimes a nearby Jewel is not necessarily offering the same sale items or incentives. All this is rather subtle, it was stuff I learned when I regularly shopped Jewels in Highland Park and Wheaton.

    The Just4U coupons do identify your shopping preferences. Over the weekend, I suggested a friend clip the Campbell's soup coupon. Except it existed on my list and not this other person's. Before March, you could find Jewel coupons specific to certain stores and not at others. Clip it anyway and you got it wherever you shopped.

    If a Jewel is located in a community with a Jewish population, they may have rabbinical supervised food. If Mexican or Polish are in the immediate area, they have offerings responsive to this population.

    Regards,
    Cathy2
    Cathy2

    "You'll be remembered long after you're dead if you make good gravy, mashed potatoes and biscuits." -- Nathalie Dupree
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  • Post #58 - June 22nd, 2020, 10:45 am
    Post #58 - June 22nd, 2020, 10:45 am Post #58 - June 22nd, 2020, 10:45 am
    Hi- I used to get at least one specialized price on my J4U on something I could use like bananas and Martinelli's frozen lasagna. The lasagna even when it is not on sale is still only $1, and so I bought one last night. Lately though they have been giving me specialized prices on stuff I never buy such as cukes, or they will give me $.20 off on Safeway hot cocoa mix, which is not a good deal. I can get Swiss Miss hot cocoa mix at Sams Club for $5.88 for 50 packages. I still saved 46% on my groceries last night, but I ended up spending $42, which was more than I had intended. They had Amylu chicken sausage, which I love B1G1F, and so I ended up getting four of them, and then I had to get hot dog buns, and the WW Brownberry ones were on sale for $3. At least I bought enough groceries last night to push me over $100 for the month.

    Jewel did not have any King Arthur flour or yeast, but they did have five pound bags of whole wheat flour. Jewel was also out of name brand toilet paper. All they had were a few packages of store brand toilet paper, which a few minutes later I saw in somebody's cart, and then they had lots of Mexican toilet paper.
  • Post #59 - June 28th, 2020, 4:37 pm
    Post #59 - June 28th, 2020, 4:37 pm Post #59 - June 28th, 2020, 4:37 pm
    Shopping today ...

    Lady was shopping with her nose not covered. I politely asked her to cover up her nose and she did. Every time she saw me, she did a nose check.

    There was a lady looking over meat in the same area I planned to visit. I stood back and waited. A man walks straight up to the same space to look around. I chirped up, "Hey, some of us are waiting our turn. I was here before you." He was clearly annoyed with me, but backed off.

    When this lady finished, she was surprised I bothered to wait. I responded, "I am sure you would have waited for me." Maybe not, but at least I was trying to set an example. When I finished with this case, I called over to the man who bounded over.

    I'd rather talk about food with the people I interact with in the store.

    Regards,
    Cathy2
    Cathy2

    "You'll be remembered long after you're dead if you make good gravy, mashed potatoes and biscuits." -- Nathalie Dupree
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  • Post #60 - June 28th, 2020, 7:13 pm
    Post #60 - June 28th, 2020, 7:13 pm Post #60 - June 28th, 2020, 7:13 pm
    Cathy2 wrote:Shopping today ...

    There was a lady looking over meat in the same area I planned to visit. I stood back and waited. A man walks straight up to the same space to look around. I chirped up, "Hey, some of us are waiting our turn. I was here before you." He was clearly annoyed with me, but backed off.

    When this lady finished, she was surprised I bothered to wait. I responded, "I am sure you would have waited for me." Maybe not, but at least I was trying to set an example. When I finished with this case, I called over to the man who bounded over.


    Just before shelter-at-home commenced I was "that guy" in a Whole Foods Market. Meat Counter. They should have used a number counter.

    I wasn't annoyed. I was completely flummoxed by the faux pas I had made. -- LLAP
    Ava-"If you get down and out, just get in the kitchen and bake a cake."- Jean Strickland

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