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  • Post #91 - June 21st, 2022, 6:26 pm
    Post #91 - June 21st, 2022, 6:26 pm Post #91 - June 21st, 2022, 6:26 pm
    And now mustard?

    Climate change affecting Canadian and French harvests, and of course Russia and Ukraine are the traditional backup supply.

    I bet Cathy2 has enough to get through the crisis. I know we've got probably eight jars of various kinds.
    What is patriotism, but the love of good things we ate in our childhood?
    -- Lin Yutang
  • Post #92 - June 21st, 2022, 10:29 pm
    Post #92 - June 21st, 2022, 10:29 pm Post #92 - June 21st, 2022, 10:29 pm
    JoelF wrote:I bet Cathy2 has enough to get through the crisis. I know we've got probably eight jars of various kinds.

    My family really loved your observation.

    Thanks!
    Cathy2

    "You'll be remembered long after you're dead if you make good gravy, mashed potatoes and biscuits." -- Nathalie Dupree
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  • Post #93 - June 22nd, 2022, 8:34 am
    Post #93 - June 22nd, 2022, 8:34 am Post #93 - June 22nd, 2022, 8:34 am
    I recently bought 8 oz of mustard seeds, so I’ll be good for some time
  • Post #94 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:17 pm
    Post #94 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:17 pm Post #94 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:17 pm
    For the past two weeks, I have been unable to find cherries at grocery stores across the economic and cultural spectrum, nor at farmers markets in both chicago and michigan. I googled "cherry short" and the autofill added "-age 2022" and it seems like some weather conditions may have dampened much of the nation's crop this year...anyone else noticing?
  • Post #95 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:32 pm
    Post #95 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:32 pm Post #95 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:32 pm
    I see dark sweet cherries every week at Fresh Farms in Wheeling, as recently as last Friday. I imagine their other stores also have them. That said, it's not yet peak season for sweet cherries in the U.S. That's still a few weeks out. I tend to avoid buying dark sweet cherries before July, as they are almost always disappointing. Pie (tart) cherries, otoh, should be coming online soon but those are never as ubiquitous as sweet cherries.

    Additionally, my industrial sources (Michigan, Washington State) tell me that there was no 'bad news' this year on cherries and that weather events had zero impact on the crop. There will be some price increases but from what I'm told, they will not be due to crop failures or shortages.

    =R=
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  • Post #96 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:41 pm
    Post #96 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:41 pm Post #96 - June 22nd, 2022, 12:41 pm
    Mariano's has Northwest cherries for $3.99/lb this week.
    "Your swimming suit matches your eyes, you hold your nose before diving, loving you has made me bananas!"
  • Post #97 - June 22nd, 2022, 2:35 pm
    Post #97 - June 22nd, 2022, 2:35 pm Post #97 - June 22nd, 2022, 2:35 pm
    Yesterday Mick Klug Farm had some early sweet cherries and Early Baloton (Morello-type tart cherries) at the Lincoln Square farmers market. Their fruit is always expensive but quality is high. I bought some sweet cherries that are smaller and not as good as the midseason varieties but much better than anything I have ever bought at a supermarket. This heat is speeding up a lot of fruit ripening.
  • Post #98 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:50 am
    Post #98 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:50 am Post #98 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:50 am
    My sister Annette is going to start upicking cherries on her farm Fruit Acres starting 6/24. They are going to be $4.99 a pound. She has 50% of a crop this year, but this is the largest crop she has had in four years, and so she is happy. She had pollination problems this year. She is going to have the black sweet cherries, which are probably Schmidt, rainer, and yellow cherries. She is going to have upick sour cherries starting 7/1. If you want to upick sweets get them this weekend. She is only open Friday through Sunday for upick. She is located at exit 39 off of I-94 in Coloma. She will also have already picked cherries for sale at her fruit stand

    I did not see any cherries at Jewel the last two times I was there.
  • Post #99 - June 23rd, 2022, 1:22 pm
    Post #99 - June 23rd, 2022, 1:22 pm Post #99 - June 23rd, 2022, 1:22 pm
    ronnie_suburban wrote:Additionally, my industrial sources (Michigan, Washington State) tell me that there was no 'bad news' this year on cherries and that weather events had zero impact on the crop. There will be some price increases but from what I'm told, they will not be due to crop failures or shortages.

    =R=

    Fruit will always be priced seasonally and maybe it is to early for better pricing. They were crazy expensive at Fresh Farms Wheeling today at $9.99 a lb.
  • Post #100 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:00 pm
    Post #100 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:00 pm Post #100 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:00 pm
    lougord99 wrote:
    ronnie_suburban wrote:Additionally, my industrial sources (Michigan, Washington State) tell me that there was no 'bad news' this year on cherries and that weather events had zero impact on the crop. There will be some price increases but from what I'm told, they will not be due to crop failures or shortages.

    =R=

    Fruit will always be priced seasonally and maybe it is to early for better pricing. They were crazy expensive at Fresh Farms Wheeling today at $9.99 a lb.

    Yeah, that's very high. That said, seasonal pricing is not as linear as it might seem. There's a lot to it, including exact timing of the harvest, size of the fruit, late-season weather, world market conditions, demands for (and surplus inventory of) processed product, etc.

    The one old saying that seems to always hold true is that in a long year, farmers can't price it high enough to make any money and in a short year, they don't have enough supply to make any money. As we all know, it's a very tough gig.

    =R=
    Same planet, different world
  • Post #101 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:02 pm
    Post #101 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:02 pm Post #101 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:02 pm
    Without question - and I did buy a $21 bag of cherries.
  • Post #102 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:10 pm
    Post #102 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:10 pm Post #102 - June 23rd, 2022, 2:10 pm
    lougord99 wrote:Without question - and I did buy a $21 bag of cherries.

    Oh, I've been tempted. I love cherries but as I posted above, I usually find them to be pretty lackluster this time of year. If you told me they were really good, I'd probably buy a bag this week. In the covid era, it's become pretty hard (and quite taboo) to sample a tester or two in the store before purchase. :roll: 8)

    =R=
    Same planet, different world
  • Post #103 - June 23rd, 2022, 3:06 pm
    Post #103 - June 23rd, 2022, 3:06 pm Post #103 - June 23rd, 2022, 3:06 pm
    I read somewhere recently that the Ukrainian cherry growers decided to get back at the Russian soldiers that were helping themselves to the cherries on the trees, and they sprayed the cherries remaining on the trees with poison, which made the Russian soldiers sick.
  • Post #104 - June 23rd, 2022, 3:15 pm
    Post #104 - June 23rd, 2022, 3:15 pm Post #104 - June 23rd, 2022, 3:15 pm
    I bought a bag of the Western cherries at Jewel when they were $2.99 a pound a few weeks ago, and I was underwhelmed. BTW- There should be Michigan sweet cherries and maybe sour at the farmer's market this weekend. They will be better than the Western cherries, but they will not be cheap. They will probably be around $7 a pound.
  • Post #105 - June 23rd, 2022, 4:16 pm
    Post #105 - June 23rd, 2022, 4:16 pm Post #105 - June 23rd, 2022, 4:16 pm
    ronnie_suburban wrote:
    lougord99 wrote:Without question - and I did buy a $21 bag of cherries.

    Oh, I've been tempted. I love cherries but as I posted above, I usually find them to be pretty lackluster this time of year. If you told me they were really good, I'd probably buy a bag this week. In the covid era, it's become pretty hard (and quite taboo) to sample a tester or two in the store before purchase. :roll: 8)

    =R=

    They were sweet enough, but definitely lacked flavor. Just not worth the price.
  • Post #106 - June 23rd, 2022, 8:08 pm
    Post #106 - June 23rd, 2022, 8:08 pm Post #106 - June 23rd, 2022, 8:08 pm
    Jewel has Western cherries on sale for $4.99 a pound this week. I bought a large container of blueberries for $2.99 last week at Jewel, and they were barely edible. I just finished the last of them last night. I might just wait until they have New Jersey blueberries, or I can get homegrown blueberries at the farmer's market. I passed on the blueberries from Mexico at Jewel.
  • Post #107 - Yesterday, 12:55 pm
    Post #107 - Yesterday, 12:55 pm Post #107 - Yesterday, 12:55 pm
    Just received an update that the fresh domestic dark/sweet cherry crop out of the PNW will be short this year. As harvesting begins, culls are up 4x from last year. Typically, that would result in lower pricing on the processed side (this is where fruit than cannot be sold as fresh typically goes) but that doesn't seem to be the case this year.

    With weather (aka winter freezes) not being a direct factor, it's really hard to say what the primary cause is. Hoping to get (and relay) more details in the next few days. In the meantime, like most everything else, you can expect higher pricing on fresh cherries this year to continue.

    =R=
    Same planet, different world
  • Post #108 - Yesterday, 6:42 pm
    Post #108 - Yesterday, 6:42 pm Post #108 - Yesterday, 6:42 pm
    ronnie_suburban wrote:Just received an update that the fresh domestic dark/sweet cherry crop out of the PNW will be short this year. As harvesting begins, culls are up 4x from last year. Typically, that would result in lower pricing on the processed side (this is where fruit than cannot be sold as fresh typically goes) but that doesn't seem to be the case this year.

    With weather (aka winter freezes) not being a direct factor, it's really hard to say what the primary cause is. Hoping to get (and relay) more details in the next few days. In the meantime, like most everything else, you can expect higher pricing on fresh cherries this year to continue.

    =R=
    Most likely all the rain we've had, until this week, it has been rainy all spring. Normally by May, it tapers off. Not this year.
    The thing about quotes on the internet is you can not confirm their validity. -- Abraham Lincoln
  • Post #109 - Yesterday, 6:46 pm
    Post #109 - Yesterday, 6:46 pm Post #109 - Yesterday, 6:46 pm
    Xexo wrote:
    ronnie_suburban wrote:Just received an update that the fresh domestic dark/sweet cherry crop out of the PNW will be short this year. As harvesting begins, culls are up 4x from last year. Typically, that would result in lower pricing on the processed side (this is where fruit than cannot be sold as fresh typically goes) but that doesn't seem to be the case this year.

    With weather (aka winter freezes) not being a direct factor, it's really hard to say what the primary cause is. Hoping to get (and relay) more details in the next few days. In the meantime, like most everything else, you can expect higher pricing on fresh cherries this year to continue.

    =R=
    Most likely all the rain we've had, until this week, it has been rainy all spring. Normally by May, it tapers off. Not this year.

    Interesting. Makes sense. Subsequent to my post above, I also heard from a couple of contacts that labor and fuel costs are other forces driving the price higher this year. No surprise there.

    =R=
    Same planet, different world
  • Post #110 - Yesterday, 9:31 pm
    Post #110 - Yesterday, 9:31 pm Post #110 - Yesterday, 9:31 pm
    LTH,
    It’s getting bad out there. Can’t find full fat, large curd Deans cottage cheese. Worse yet, Partanna olive oil: was about $23, now $41.
    If you aren't tasting, you aren't cooking.
  • Post #111 - Today, 3:09 pm
    Post #111 - Today, 3:09 pm Post #111 - Today, 3:09 pm
    Cherries often crack when they get lots of rain. I heard that there was a problem with lots of snow in Washington in April, which meant not all of the cherries pollinated. There are still cherries at the farmers market right now, but they are more money than some people are willing to spend. They were $14 a quart at the Evanston market last Saturday, and my sister in Michigan was selling her cherries for $5.99 a pound at her fruit stand on Sunday, and she was charging $4.99 a pound for upick sweet cherries. She had at least 50 cars in the upick parking lot when I was there on Sunday, and so definitely people are willing to pay $5 a gallon for gas or more to upick. I brought a quart of her cherries back Sunday that I picked up at the fruit stand. I think she is running low on upick sweet cherries right now, and she expects to run out of them on Friday.

    She is still going to have already picked sweet cherries for sale this weekend at her fruit stand. She is having upick sours starting this Friday 7/1. Her upick sour cherries are going to run $1.49 a pound. Her fruit stand, Fruit Acres is located right off of exit 39 on I-94 at the Coloma exit. Her upick cherries are about a mile south of there on Carmody Road. Hope this helps, Nancy

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