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    Post #1 - March 21st, 2006, 8:23 pm
    Post #1 - March 21st, 2006, 8:23 pm Post #1 - March 21st, 2006, 8:23 pm
    In the March issue of Food and Wine, they rated the Technivorm KB471 Clubline drip coffee machine as the best. I have searched high and low in the Chicago area for it. No luck at C and B, Williams Sonoma, Sur la Table. In fact they never heard of it. Next I tried Food and Wine. No response to email and no luck by phone. I then asked a few local coffee shops like Meinl; again, never heard of it. The Technivorm web site has no local contact as it is a Dutch product. A shop in Oregon does stock some models but did not see the KB471. Any suggestions?
  • Post #2 - March 21st, 2006, 8:29 pm
    Post #2 - March 21st, 2006, 8:29 pm Post #2 - March 21st, 2006, 8:29 pm
    Well, assuming you mean 741 rather than 471, there's a link on the Technivorm site to Boyds as their US importer, who seem to sell it directly:

    http://www.boydscoffeestore.com/brewing/kb741.php

    It better make good coffee, it isn't going to sell based on sleek Italian design.
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  • Post #3 - March 21st, 2006, 10:57 pm
    Post #3 - March 21st, 2006, 10:57 pm Post #3 - March 21st, 2006, 10:57 pm
    I've used the Technivorm 741 for about 5 years and it does produce great coffee by virtue of its high water temp. Get it here and while you're at it, get a coffee roaster. Kit recently turned me on to this. Roasting your own beans is so easy and the coffee is orders of magnitudes better. And at $5/pound for the best beans, I don't know why it took me so long to get into this.

    Bill/SFNM
  • Post #4 - March 22nd, 2006, 7:03 am
    Post #4 - March 22nd, 2006, 7:03 am Post #4 - March 22nd, 2006, 7:03 am
    I have some vague recollection of having seen a Technivorm for sale at the Intelligentsia cafe on Broadway at one point. It may be worth checking there.
  • Post #5 - March 24th, 2006, 11:39 pm
    Post #5 - March 24th, 2006, 11:39 pm Post #5 - March 24th, 2006, 11:39 pm
    I have the Technivorm Moccamaster. The difference is that it makes more volume than the KB. I decant into an airpot, so I opted for more volume rather than dripping into a thermos. I check the temp every now and then and it is consistent at 202F. These are the best drip brewers ever. Without a good burr grinder and fresh beans, however, you are not much farther ahead.

    Food & Wine also mentioned the KitchenAid Proline grinder. I love mine. They also mention the iRoast for roasting your own. According to F&W, I am three for three.

    Other good brewers of late interest are the AeroPress Coffee Maker and the Krups Moka Brew. I haven't tried those but they sure are getting a lot of opposable thumbs ups in the fora.

    Kit
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  • Post #6 - March 26th, 2006, 2:11 pm
    Post #6 - March 26th, 2006, 2:11 pm Post #6 - March 26th, 2006, 2:11 pm
    I purchased a Technivorm Moccamaster at Sweet Maria's website. They are also a great source for roasting supplies. They have the best green beans I've found and a good selection of roasters. Service is excellent.
    I roast my own and fix it in a Moccamaster. I'm spoiled now.

    http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.technivorm.shtml
  • Post #7 - August 29th, 2007, 4:01 pm
    Post #7 - August 29th, 2007, 4:01 pm Post #7 - August 29th, 2007, 4:01 pm
    If I didn’t get around to writing this post, I’d feel as though I was
    keeping secrets from my fellow LTHers.

    Several months back, trixie-pea was put in charge of upgrading the
    coffee situation over at her workplace. After
    a bit of research, she opted for the Techivorm-Moccamaster, a
    Euro-sleek drip coffee maker from Holland. Needless to say, the 15 or
    so employees there went from drinking about a 1 to 1 ½ Lbs. of
    coffee a week to somewhere in the area of 5 Lb.

    I’ve been using a French press around my office and on numerous roadtrips
    for years now and have always insisted that it makes the best cup of drip coffee
    possible (including the stuff you get at any coffeehouse)... until I was turned on
    to the Techivorm. As much as I love the French press, this machine takes it to
    another level.

    The coffee from the Technivorm is unforgivably clean and totally balanced.
    Beautiful characteristics come out of the coffee that I was
    unable to taste before. I’ve never had iced coffee even
    remotely as good as what this machine can produce.

    According to the Intelligentsia Coffee website;
    “The Technivorm is one of the only brewers to pass
    the SCAA’s standards for brewing. This model gets water to
    the optimal temperature of 200 degrees. A powerful heating
    element gets up to temperature in seconds and the brewer
    has an optimal brew cycle of approximately 7 minutes, producing
    a 4-6 minute saturation time for coffee grounds.”

    I recently decided to buy one for the office and, unfortunately, I
    have to admit that it’s the best business decision I’ve made
    in many years.

    Its price at the Intelligentsia coffee shops is about $205; a total steal.


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  • Post #8 - August 29th, 2007, 8:37 pm
    Post #8 - August 29th, 2007, 8:37 pm Post #8 - August 29th, 2007, 8:37 pm
    I've been dying to buy one of these so I have to say I'm really jealous that you have one now!

    You can pick one up for a little less at Terroir Coffee's website:

    http://www.terroircoffee.com/store/more ... hp?gid=215

    they sell the Clubline for $172 and the larger one with the thermal unit for $195. Then there's the shipping - its around $10 to ship to Chicagoland.

    Sweet Maria's sells them for $182, before shipping:

    http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.technivorm.shtml
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  • Post #9 - August 30th, 2007, 9:20 am
    Post #9 - August 30th, 2007, 9:20 am Post #9 - August 30th, 2007, 9:20 am
    Quick question, I couldn't seem to find on the websites, do they make a grind and brew? Or do you have to grind your beans separately? I have the Cuisenart grind and brew with the thermal carafe, which I like, if not for the grinder, that won't come out of the holder. Making it very difficult to clean.
  • Post #10 - August 30th, 2007, 2:39 pm
    Post #10 - August 30th, 2007, 2:39 pm Post #10 - August 30th, 2007, 2:39 pm
    nicinchic wrote:Quick question, I couldn't seem to find on the websites, do they make a grind and brew? Or do you have to grind your beans separately? I have the Cuisenart grind and brew with the thermal carafe, which I like, if not for the grinder, that won't come out of the holder. Making it very difficult to clean.


    The specific machine I purchased was the Moccamaster KBG 741. It only has brewing capabilities and doesn't grind beans.

    The grinding of the beans is of utmost importance and I am highly suspect of most home grinding machines. I would personally prefer getting my beans whole and have them ground at a coffeeshop versus doing it at home. Since I blow through alot of coffee, the freshness of the beans is never a problem.
  • Post #11 - August 30th, 2007, 6:25 pm
    Post #11 - August 30th, 2007, 6:25 pm Post #11 - August 30th, 2007, 6:25 pm
    My husband and I have been enjoying our technivorn for just over a year now and although it does make outstanding coffee, I'm bothered that the design of the carafe isn't better so that the lid can actually be placed on it and then placed back under the drip/filter. I'm not really thrilled with how the carafe pours either, but the coffee is so good I shouldn't complain at all. If anyone has "traded-out" the standard carafe for a brand/style that fits and pours better, please let me know. With that little change it would be the most perfect coffee pot in the world.
  • Post #12 - August 30th, 2007, 6:36 pm
    Post #12 - August 30th, 2007, 6:36 pm Post #12 - August 30th, 2007, 6:36 pm
    clb wrote:My husband and I have been enjoying our technivorn for just over a year now and although it does make outstanding coffee, I'm bothered that the design of the carafe isn't better so that the lid can actually be placed on it and then placed back under the drip/filter. I'm not really thrilled with how the carafe pours either, but the coffee is so good I shouldn't complain at all. If anyone has "traded-out" the standard carafe for a brand/style that fits and pours better, please let me know. With that little change it would be the most perfect coffee pot in the world.


    I couldn't agree more.
  • Post #13 - August 31st, 2007, 10:39 am
    Post #13 - August 31st, 2007, 10:39 am Post #13 - August 31st, 2007, 10:39 am
    there are some good at-home grinders, but they are pricey. Burr grinders are what you need to grind coffee properly as it does not 'heat up' the bean as it grinds (which is what the blade does). You can also control the settings for grind size.

    Some are crazy expensive, like the ones you find on sweet maria's or on terroir's site. Kitchenaid actually makes an excellent burr grinder: http://kitchenaid.com/catalog/product.j ... 7&prod=415

    There are some great discounts out there, reducing the price significantly.

    Terroir also sells a burr grinder - for just under $200.

    http://www.terroircoffee.com/store/more ... hp?gid=216

    I'd never have a store grind my coffee for me - I like it ground minutes before I use it as coffee changes pretty rapidly once you grind it and expose it to air.
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  • Post #14 - August 31st, 2007, 12:25 pm
    Post #14 - August 31st, 2007, 12:25 pm Post #14 - August 31st, 2007, 12:25 pm
    clb wrote:My husband and I have been enjoying our technivorn for just over a year now and although it does make outstanding coffee, I'm bothered that the design of the carafe isn't better so that the lid can actually be placed on it and then placed back under the drip/filter. I'm not really thrilled with how the carafe pours either, but the coffee is so good I shouldn't complain at all. If anyone has "traded-out" the standard carafe for a brand/style that fits and pours better, please let me know. With that little change it would be the most perfect coffee pot in the world.


    The thermal carafe that came with my Technivorn did not fit with the lid on. However, the replacement I purchased after the original bit the dust (don't ask), fits just fine. I purchased the replacement from:

    http://www.boydscoffeestore.com/brewing/kbts.php (replacement carafe at bottom of page.).

    You might want to check if this will fit your particular model.

    Bill/SFNM
  • Post #15 - September 4th, 2007, 8:22 pm
    Post #15 - September 4th, 2007, 8:22 pm Post #15 - September 4th, 2007, 8:22 pm
    PIGMON wrote:I’ve been using a French press around my office and on numerous roadtrips
    for years now and have always insisted that it makes the best cup of drip coffee
    possible (including the stuff you get at any coffeehouse)... until I was turned on
    to the Techivorm. As much as I love the French press, this machine takes it to
    another level.

    PIGMON wrote:The grinding of the beans is of utmost importance and I am highly suspect of most home grinding machines. I would personally prefer getting my beans whole and have them ground at a coffeeshop versus doing it at home. Since I blow through alot of coffee, the freshness of the beans is never a problem.


    Like you I use a french press at work but use a burr grinder (Krups) for fresh grounds. I do this mainly keep my (cut down) coffee consumption low :)
    Thanks for the note on the Technivorm - I'm curious to try the coffee from it.
  • Post #16 - November 14th, 2014, 12:51 pm
    Post #16 - November 14th, 2014, 12:51 pm Post #16 - November 14th, 2014, 12:51 pm
    This thread has been on my mind lately because I keep running into superb reviews of another coffeemaker which, inevitably, refer, in turn, to the Moccamaster. I've long heard good things about the Moccamaster but now, it seems, it has a rival and, according to several reviews, is second to a somewhat less expensive, less flashy model--the Bonavita BV 199TS. So, just wondering: anyone here have any firsthand experience with this Bonavita?
    Gypsy Boy

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  • Post #17 - November 16th, 2014, 3:50 pm
    Post #17 - November 16th, 2014, 3:50 pm Post #17 - November 16th, 2014, 3:50 pm
    While I usually use a French Press at home, our good friends needed a drip coffee maker for their Michigan vacation home. After quite a bit of research, the Moccamaster seemed to be the best option for a house warming gift. It's been making the best drip coffee that I have had for 6 years and going strong. I wouldn't hesitate if you are looking for a drip maker.
  • Post #18 - August 27th, 2019, 5:18 pm
    Post #18 - August 27th, 2019, 5:18 pm Post #18 - August 27th, 2019, 5:18 pm
    Having had a Mocha Master for 2 years, I can provide my experience:

    From day 1 I realized I had purchased an expensive machine after falling for the hype of the "golden cup" certification, and rave reviews.
    It is a well made drip coffee maker with absolutely no features. I have the SS vacuum carafe, vs the heated glass carafe.

    This unit does no more to add taste than any other drip machine. All it does is heat water, and sprinkle it over the grounds.
    It uses paper filters (which for some purists is an issue).

    Lots of great reasons to buy it - exclusivity, well made, attractive, simple to use and clean (and descale).
    Taste enhancement isn't one of them.

    After 2 years, I have had an issue where I cracked the fill reservior. Simple you would think to get a new part.
    The Canadian and US distributors wont sell parts, but if you ship on your dime ($$) for a flat fee ($$$) they will send you a refurb upon receiving your old one.
    Parts are available if you dig deep enough overseas (what I did), and one US site.
    That the Manufacturer wont provide customers a cost effective option of shipping you an inexpensive part, but wants you to spend 30-50% of the original value of an expensive appliance is the best reason not to buy one. Read the warranty - not all parts are warranted. Even if you have an accident with a warranted part and just want to buy the part to fixt it - you are hosed.

    I have a good grinder, and the coffee surface area, and contact time are all in the control of the brewer based on grind, not the machine.

    Good coffee:
    - cold activated carbon filtered water
    - good whole bean coffee
    - experiment with a good burr grinder till you nail the volume and grind of coffee that makes you look forward to that special cup

    Avoid the expensive Technivorm with a manufacturer that only wants to take you to the cleaners for the sale, and then for service.
    Just my experience and advice.
  • Post #19 - April 18th, 2020, 3:48 pm
    Post #19 - April 18th, 2020, 3:48 pm Post #19 - April 18th, 2020, 3:48 pm
    Surprised that I never updated this thread. I took advantage of the lockdown to descale and clean my Moccamaster, first with Dezcal and then Cleancaf.

    After many years of enjoying the best drip coffee I've ever had with frequent visits to our best friends Michigan home, finally caved and bought one several years ago. If anyone is using a drip coffee maker, treat yourself. I look forward so much to my morning Moccamaster coffee. The best non-espresso coffee I've had.
  • Post #20 - April 20th, 2020, 3:42 pm
    Post #20 - April 20th, 2020, 3:42 pm Post #20 - April 20th, 2020, 3:42 pm
    Al Erhardt- I gotta admit, you've got good taste in a Coffee-Machine. I say "Machine"- as opposed to a "Coffee Maker"- because as an ex-Industrial Design Student- I gotta admit-this product- makes a serious statement about how it brews coffee.
    It's a very well designed "Machine"-
    that I've been using for over 2 years now.
    I'm as pleased with my daily burr-ground-blend-of-Peets-Major Dickinson w/ a bit of Eight-O'Clock-Hazel-Nut- coffee as when I first unpacked it.

    ImageMy trusty coffee Maker-A beautiful example of Dutch Design by R. Kramer, on Flickr

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  • Post #21 - April 20th, 2020, 4:09 pm
    Post #21 - April 20th, 2020, 4:09 pm Post #21 - April 20th, 2020, 4:09 pm
    Hombre de Acero wrote:Mocca-Master Technivorm-In the words of Gary Wivott- "Count-me-a-Fan"

    Mr. Steel and Mr. Al, agree with both of you as I've owned a Technivorm for years.

    Funny story, I deliberated the purchase for a few months, I bought it home, purchased with a 20% professional discount at Sur La Table, unpacked it and my wife said "one button, for all that money it only has one button" I thought it funny but it was she who had the last laugh as when I plugged it in to make a pot of coffee it did not work. :shock:

    Exchanged it the next day, no fuss no muss, they even let me keep original carafe so I had two.

    Technivorm-Moccamaster, count me a Fan!
    Hold my beer . . .

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  • Post #22 - April 20th, 2020, 6:08 pm
    Post #22 - April 20th, 2020, 6:08 pm Post #22 - April 20th, 2020, 6:08 pm
    I’ve had one for 12 years; use it almost everyday. Love it. It’s a tank and well worth the price.
  • Post #23 - April 21st, 2020, 9:35 am
    Post #23 - April 21st, 2020, 9:35 am Post #23 - April 21st, 2020, 9:35 am
    We have had one for at least 10 years, use it every day. I think it is the best money we have ever spent on an appliance.
  • Post #24 - September 25th, 2020, 8:35 am
    Post #24 - September 25th, 2020, 8:35 am Post #24 - September 25th, 2020, 8:35 am
    Whole Latte Love just published a nice guide to the Technivorm Moccamaster line: https://www.wholelattelove.com/blogs/ar ... occamaster

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